This isn't a come-on. I'm in a very serious relationship with a landscape architect.

Oliver ,'Conviction (1)'


Angel 5: Is That It? Am I Done?  

[NAFDA] This is where we talk about the show! Anything that's aired in the US (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though -- if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it.


bon bon - May 20, 2004 10:00:41 am PDT #1059 of 3531
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

I think they have no heirs and assignees, mystically.

It's kinda the reverse of Eve's contract. Which brings us back to Lilah's contract. They got some K mojo, yo!


Atropa - May 20, 2004 10:03:42 am PDT #1060 of 3531
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Am I the only one who interpreted "You won't last ten minutes" as a reference to his ability to fight while wounded, rather than "in ten minutes your wounds will kill you"? Because it seemed to be a "Stay out of this one, you're too hurt to fight" sort of thing.

That's how it seemed to me, too. In fact, in my head Illyria knocks Gunn out and shoves him off to one side, so he doesn't *try* to fight.


Micole - May 20, 2004 10:04:16 am PDT #1061 of 3531
I've been working on a song about the difference between analogy and metaphor.

But I'm also pretty convinced he willingly surrendered it (or thought he did) and that's all that matters to me, in a finale like Not Fade Away.

As Buffy didn't kill Angel in "Becoming 2," but she thought she did. It's the choice that matters.


Narrator - May 20, 2004 10:04:23 am PDT #1062 of 3531
The evil is this way?

Secondly, Illyria did not hit on Gunn. She said he was "not unpleasant in her eyes" which in Illyria-speak means, I like him as a friend. It is an indication that she's beginning to accept that she's part of their merry group and she even likes being around them. But any non-platonic feelings she may have had at that moment were about Wesley, not Gunn.

Unless, some of her Fred-memories are of Gunn, as they were a couple.


Topic!Cindy - May 20, 2004 10:04:36 am PDT #1063 of 3531
What is even happening?

I was actually talking about someone else's "easy on the eyes" misquote. But maybe she was hitting on him, it just wasn't the impression I got.

I think that was my misquote, but all I said was, "I liked Illyria's comment to Gunn, about him being easy on the eyes." I didn't make any further comments or imply that she was hitting on him--just that I liked it. What was her actual quote (I wasn't trying to quote--just being gist-y), something about him not being unpleasant to her eyes?

eta...

Still, Narrator makes a good point.


JenP - May 20, 2004 10:04:56 am PDT #1064 of 3531

Am I the only one who interpreted "You won't last ten minutes" as a reference to his ability to fight while wounded, rather than "in ten minutes your wounds will kill you"?

I actually thought she was talking about his being mortally wounded. She started with, "You're fading ..." But, I like your interpretation better. So, perhaps I'll just go with it.

In Quotables, I quoted Illyria's line to Gunn as "Try not to die. You are not unpleasant to my eyes," which is what I heard on rewatch. (My parenthetical "truer words" is me talking about me, not a comment on Illyria hitting on Gunn, dontcha know). I actually think it was just a funny moment, regardless of whether there was actual flirtage. And I don't think that's what Wolfram is talking about, but I just wanted to clarify. Because ... I don't really know why.


Wolfram - May 20, 2004 10:07:17 am PDT #1065 of 3531
Visilurking

I think that was my misquote, but all I said was, "I liked Illyria's comment to Gunn, about him being easy on the eyes." I didn't make any further comments or imply that she was hitting on him--just that I liked it. What was her actual quote (I wasn't trying to quote--just being gist-y), something about him not being unpleasant to her eyes?

I think it was not being unpleasant in her eyes. Which, IMO, is a world of difference from easy on the eyes. I guess I'm feeling a bit over-protective of my sweet, sweet Wesley. Le sigh.


Topic!Cindy - May 20, 2004 10:07:46 am PDT #1066 of 3531
What is even happening?

I actually think it was just a funny moment, regardless of whether there was actual flirtage. And I don't think that's what Wolfram is talking about, but I just wanted to clarify. Because ... I don't really know why.

Jessica, JenP's comment above is bringing to mind some of the lines that didn't make it from the script. Do you want to take this, or may/shall I?


Jessica - May 20, 2004 10:09:55 am PDT #1067 of 3531
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I'm not sure exactly which lines you mean -- the end of the Wes/Illyria scene?

Anyway, go ahead.


jengod - May 20, 2004 10:10:56 am PDT #1068 of 3531

I'm not qualified to discuss, but I REALLY LIKED:

"Do you want me to lie to you now?"

Kinda made me a little sniffly.

I like the Whedonverse.