We die horribly and painfully, you go to hell and I spend eternity in the arms of baby Jesus.

Gunn ,'Not Fade Away'


Angel 5: Is That It? Am I Done?  

[NAFDA] This is where we talk about the show! Anything that's aired in the US (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though -- if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it.


Narrator - May 20, 2004 10:04:23 am PDT #1062 of 3531
The evil is this way?

Secondly, Illyria did not hit on Gunn. She said he was "not unpleasant in her eyes" which in Illyria-speak means, I like him as a friend. It is an indication that she's beginning to accept that she's part of their merry group and she even likes being around them. But any non-platonic feelings she may have had at that moment were about Wesley, not Gunn.

Unless, some of her Fred-memories are of Gunn, as they were a couple.


Topic!Cindy - May 20, 2004 10:04:36 am PDT #1063 of 3531
What is even happening?

I was actually talking about someone else's "easy on the eyes" misquote. But maybe she was hitting on him, it just wasn't the impression I got.

I think that was my misquote, but all I said was, "I liked Illyria's comment to Gunn, about him being easy on the eyes." I didn't make any further comments or imply that she was hitting on him--just that I liked it. What was her actual quote (I wasn't trying to quote--just being gist-y), something about him not being unpleasant to her eyes?

eta...

Still, Narrator makes a good point.


JenP - May 20, 2004 10:04:56 am PDT #1064 of 3531

Am I the only one who interpreted "You won't last ten minutes" as a reference to his ability to fight while wounded, rather than "in ten minutes your wounds will kill you"?

I actually thought she was talking about his being mortally wounded. She started with, "You're fading ..." But, I like your interpretation better. So, perhaps I'll just go with it.

In Quotables, I quoted Illyria's line to Gunn as "Try not to die. You are not unpleasant to my eyes," which is what I heard on rewatch. (My parenthetical "truer words" is me talking about me, not a comment on Illyria hitting on Gunn, dontcha know). I actually think it was just a funny moment, regardless of whether there was actual flirtage. And I don't think that's what Wolfram is talking about, but I just wanted to clarify. Because ... I don't really know why.


Wolfram - May 20, 2004 10:07:17 am PDT #1065 of 3531
Visilurking

I think that was my misquote, but all I said was, "I liked Illyria's comment to Gunn, about him being easy on the eyes." I didn't make any further comments or imply that she was hitting on him--just that I liked it. What was her actual quote (I wasn't trying to quote--just being gist-y), something about him not being unpleasant to her eyes?

I think it was not being unpleasant in her eyes. Which, IMO, is a world of difference from easy on the eyes. I guess I'm feeling a bit over-protective of my sweet, sweet Wesley. Le sigh.


Topic!Cindy - May 20, 2004 10:07:46 am PDT #1066 of 3531
What is even happening?

I actually think it was just a funny moment, regardless of whether there was actual flirtage. And I don't think that's what Wolfram is talking about, but I just wanted to clarify. Because ... I don't really know why.

Jessica, JenP's comment above is bringing to mind some of the lines that didn't make it from the script. Do you want to take this, or may/shall I?


Jessica - May 20, 2004 10:09:55 am PDT #1067 of 3531
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I'm not sure exactly which lines you mean -- the end of the Wes/Illyria scene?

Anyway, go ahead.


jengod - May 20, 2004 10:10:56 am PDT #1068 of 3531

I'm not qualified to discuss, but I REALLY LIKED:

"Do you want me to lie to you now?"

Kinda made me a little sniffly.

I like the Whedonverse.


DCJensen - May 20, 2004 10:11:04 am PDT #1069 of 3531
All is well that ends in pizza.

I wasn't going to mention it, but since someone else did... Last night I came up with a way to integrate the next scene with the slayers coming to help.

My proposed "teaser" for Season 6, Episode one....

---- Angel Crew head off to do battle...

Suddenly, slayers pour in from out of nowhere, fighting. Willow arrives and a barrier forms around the Angel survivors.

Buffy and Willow come up to the Angel crew.

Buffy: "Got your message," She says "Glad you aren't evil."

Angel: "It's about time."

Andrew comes up, reloading his crossbow.

Andrew: "You guys ready? We still need the help. There's a dragon needs slaying, too."

Various nods, they're ready.

Illryia: "This one is not. He will not survive much longer without healing."

Willow: "Fred? What– You're right. I'll be right back."

Willow teleports Gunn to the hospital.

Buffy: "Where's Wes?"

Angel: "Dead."

Willow returns.

Angel picks up his sword, eyes the Dragon. He looks at the group.

Angel: "I believe I was about to slay a dragon. Time to get back to work. Everyone ready?"

All: "Ready."

Angel: "Willow, drop the barrier."

----------------

That's just me being completely fannish.

Loved the real ending, tho.


JenP - May 20, 2004 10:11:43 am PDT #1070 of 3531

Cindy ... I am intrigued. Do tell.


§ ita § - May 20, 2004 10:14:59 am PDT #1071 of 3531
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

This black leather jacket (no size) was worn on screen in Episode 4, Season 5 by Angel on the television show "Angel."

Well, two lucky people got their own from the W&H Revue. Probably cheaper, and certainly for a better cause.

Why can't Angel sign away his shot at Shanshu? It may never even have been him. If the words had said "ex-Liam to become human," then I think there's no wiggle room. But I can totally see there being a mystical way to remove himself for consideration.

Did he sign the contract with the Evil Pricks, or did he sign it with reality? Or TPTB?