Can't even shout, Can't even cry. The Gentlemen are coming by. Looking in windows, knocking on doors. They need to take seven, and they might take yours. Can't call to mom, can't say a word. You're gonna die screaming but you won't be heard.

Dream Girl ,'Bring On The Night'


Angel 5: Is That It? Am I Done?  

[NAFDA] This is where we talk about the show! Anything that's aired in the US (including promos) is fair game. No spoilers though -- if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it.


JenP - May 20, 2004 10:04:56 am PDT #1064 of 3531

Am I the only one who interpreted "You won't last ten minutes" as a reference to his ability to fight while wounded, rather than "in ten minutes your wounds will kill you"?

I actually thought she was talking about his being mortally wounded. She started with, "You're fading ..." But, I like your interpretation better. So, perhaps I'll just go with it.

In Quotables, I quoted Illyria's line to Gunn as "Try not to die. You are not unpleasant to my eyes," which is what I heard on rewatch. (My parenthetical "truer words" is me talking about me, not a comment on Illyria hitting on Gunn, dontcha know). I actually think it was just a funny moment, regardless of whether there was actual flirtage. And I don't think that's what Wolfram is talking about, but I just wanted to clarify. Because ... I don't really know why.


Wolfram - May 20, 2004 10:07:17 am PDT #1065 of 3531
Visilurking

I think that was my misquote, but all I said was, "I liked Illyria's comment to Gunn, about him being easy on the eyes." I didn't make any further comments or imply that she was hitting on him--just that I liked it. What was her actual quote (I wasn't trying to quote--just being gist-y), something about him not being unpleasant to her eyes?

I think it was not being unpleasant in her eyes. Which, IMO, is a world of difference from easy on the eyes. I guess I'm feeling a bit over-protective of my sweet, sweet Wesley. Le sigh.


Topic!Cindy - May 20, 2004 10:07:46 am PDT #1066 of 3531
What is even happening?

I actually think it was just a funny moment, regardless of whether there was actual flirtage. And I don't think that's what Wolfram is talking about, but I just wanted to clarify. Because ... I don't really know why.

Jessica, JenP's comment above is bringing to mind some of the lines that didn't make it from the script. Do you want to take this, or may/shall I?


Jessica - May 20, 2004 10:09:55 am PDT #1067 of 3531
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I'm not sure exactly which lines you mean -- the end of the Wes/Illyria scene?

Anyway, go ahead.


jengod - May 20, 2004 10:10:56 am PDT #1068 of 3531

I'm not qualified to discuss, but I REALLY LIKED:

"Do you want me to lie to you now?"

Kinda made me a little sniffly.

I like the Whedonverse.


DCJensen - May 20, 2004 10:11:04 am PDT #1069 of 3531
All is well that ends in pizza.

I wasn't going to mention it, but since someone else did... Last night I came up with a way to integrate the next scene with the slayers coming to help.

My proposed "teaser" for Season 6, Episode one....

---- Angel Crew head off to do battle...

Suddenly, slayers pour in from out of nowhere, fighting. Willow arrives and a barrier forms around the Angel survivors.

Buffy and Willow come up to the Angel crew.

Buffy: "Got your message," She says "Glad you aren't evil."

Angel: "It's about time."

Andrew comes up, reloading his crossbow.

Andrew: "You guys ready? We still need the help. There's a dragon needs slaying, too."

Various nods, they're ready.

Illryia: "This one is not. He will not survive much longer without healing."

Willow: "Fred? What– You're right. I'll be right back."

Willow teleports Gunn to the hospital.

Buffy: "Where's Wes?"

Angel: "Dead."

Willow returns.

Angel picks up his sword, eyes the Dragon. He looks at the group.

Angel: "I believe I was about to slay a dragon. Time to get back to work. Everyone ready?"

All: "Ready."

Angel: "Willow, drop the barrier."

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That's just me being completely fannish.

Loved the real ending, tho.


JenP - May 20, 2004 10:11:43 am PDT #1070 of 3531

Cindy ... I am intrigued. Do tell.


§ ita § - May 20, 2004 10:14:59 am PDT #1071 of 3531
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

This black leather jacket (no size) was worn on screen in Episode 4, Season 5 by Angel on the television show "Angel."

Well, two lucky people got their own from the W&H Revue. Probably cheaper, and certainly for a better cause.

Why can't Angel sign away his shot at Shanshu? It may never even have been him. If the words had said "ex-Liam to become human," then I think there's no wiggle room. But I can totally see there being a mystical way to remove himself for consideration.

Did he sign the contract with the Evil Pricks, or did he sign it with reality? Or TPTB?


jengod - May 20, 2004 10:16:49 am PDT #1072 of 3531

By the way, Joss, that ending really just encourages the fanfiction people sooo much.

I kinda liked how Angel was left with nobody alive (or likely to be alive) but crazy supernatural rivals. Lorne & Connor left, true; but Gunn's probably gonna die and he don't like Spike or Illyria.

Illyria, also? HOT! Like a blue flame.


jengod - May 20, 2004 10:17:04 am PDT #1073 of 3531