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Bureaucracy 3: Oh, so now you want to be part of the SOLUTION?  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


Polter-Cow - Jul 17, 2007 9:05:30 am PDT #9979 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I'm not entirely sure I get it. Is it just because we're all so oppressed?


Kat - Jul 17, 2007 9:05:34 am PDT #9980 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Looking at Jon's list, all of those threads are about how TV is handled. Since 2006 that's ALL we have voted on? So, yes, I think I personally am tired of voting about TV threads and since that it all we have voted on in over a year, it seems tiresome and like overkill.

Moreover, to say it's the secondary issues that get NP and that is what is designed for doesn't work for me either. Whitefont is a perfect example. People who are about it seem to care about it passionately and it means that they may or may not want a thread based on its whitefontness or lack thereof.


bon bon - Jul 17, 2007 9:06:50 am PDT #9981 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

Given that I've just PROVEN that NP votes have not affected the outcome of our votes, can we get back to naming the new thread?

In fairness, two of the six hit 42, and one has to accept your contention that the subissues were less important-- because several of them have yes/no votes below 42. For example, closing VM was not controversial, but I remember being annoyed that NP carried the day on leaving it open for awhile.


Jesse - Jul 17, 2007 9:07:07 am PDT #9982 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I like Mister Rogers!


Kat - Jul 17, 2007 9:07:10 am PDT #9983 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Given that I've just PROVEN that NP votes have not affected the outcome of our votes, can we get back to naming the new thread?

Actually, not proven. Proven that the first or perceived main item on a ballot would not be affected by NP (in which case, then why have it?). But for some people like me, to whom the secondary issue matters, it DOES make a difference.


Sophia Brooks - Jul 17, 2007 9:09:37 am PDT #9984 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

But for some people like me, to whom the secondary issue matters it, DOES make a difference.

This brings up the question of what would happen if the main item passed and the secondary item didn't. Would we discuss and vote again? To be specific, if we voted to close the Veronica Mars thread, but the vote on WHEN didn't carry, what would the action be?


Jon B. - Jul 17, 2007 9:11:24 am PDT #9985 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

But for some people like me, to whom the secondary issue matters it, DOES make a difference.

Fair enough. I apologize for that generalization. But in a case like this:

closing VM was not controversial, but I remember being annoyed that NP carried the day on leaving it open for awhile.

what's the solution? People want it closed. If we hadn't included the NP votes, when would it have closed?

t edit xpost with Sophia


Beverly - Jul 17, 2007 9:13:58 am PDT #9986 of 10001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Oh, I like Job. In the biblical sense.


Kat - Jul 17, 2007 9:15:41 am PDT #9987 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Don't know. Maybe the ballot needs to be structured differently. As in:

Don't close
Close thread now
Close thread one month after DVD.

Or something like this: No Drama thread.
Drama thread no white font
Drama thread, white font for a 24 hours
Drama thread, white font for a week

Granted this leads to runoffs which I find irksome though more like consensus.


bon bon - Jul 17, 2007 9:17:26 am PDT #9988 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

closing VM was not controversial, but I remember being annoyed that NP carried the day on leaving it open for awhile.

what's the solution? People want it closed. If we hadn't included the NP votes, when would it have closed?

You raise a good point, and I don't mean to say that you're wrong that the furor over NP might be largely moot by recent votes. I'm not sure how to solve it.