One thing I would point out is what's coming up on the block in terms of shows. That is, I think reality, that is Non-fiction, shows are going to be holding the majority of broadcasting during the next few months, so getting a Non-Fiction thread set up might be the primary goal.

I say this as someone who has Boxed Set to fall back on when EUREKA starts up, not as an interested party.

However, there's also the dilemma of RESCUE ME in a short time, so the folding cable drama into the premium cable thread would be of benefit (though I'm so far fucking behind in the RICHES that I'm not necessarily going to contribute).

I am, I have to say, a bit confused as to why people think it is a good idea to add Cable Drama to Premium. Not that I think it is a bad idea, necessarily, but several people have said it seems like a good fit and I can't see where that conclusion is coming from. I've been skimming lightly through Cable Drama as I haven't been watching the Riches yet, and while the discussion is robust it doesn't cry out for a home in Premium, to me. If someone could explain it to me, I would appreciate it.

OK, leaving aside any possible thematic similarities (and I think there are a great deal in the shows that seem to get MOST discussed from both), there's also the fact that unlike most of the Network Drama shows (not all, certainly, but most), the cable and premium cable shows get broadcast multiple times during the week, so you don't even need to DVR or TIVO them when they are first broadcast, which leads to a far greater disparity in the viewing time for folks.

Some network shows get double duty, but they seem to be fewer and farther between then they used to (Heroes reruns getting pulled from SF once the show was a hit is what I'm thinking of here.)

I would really like us to have some more substantive discussion before we move to lightbulbs. After all, we just closed the threads this morning.

This is a shift for our community. I'd like us to make it in a deliberate way, moreso than just the "some people will be unhappy" part of the process inherent in voting.

I agree with Liese.

That said, I too would like some sort of comedy thread, though -- be it some sort of categorical bucket. I would like to keep talking about The Office here, but also enjoyed the cross-pollination. I would like some sort of drama thread/s -- either dedicated or bucket. I don't think I want to see all four temp threads become permanent. I think we can do better, in terms of sussing out what worked and what didn't, and for how many of us. It's summer. Most shows are on hiatus, now. We have time to figure it out.

I liked the non-fiction/reality thread a lot. The conversation was quick and light and fun, with a lot of cross-pollination. There are so many reality shows on now, and so many of us watch them, it seems sensible to me to create some variation of that thread.

I haven't been on the board for too long (well, hell, three years, I guess), so I'm not exactly sure why adding the more general TV threads is a change in culture. When I arrived, Buffy was over and Angel was in its final season, if I remember correctly, and it seemed to me that a lot of other TV was always discussed in Natter, and even in Bitches. As much as we read and shop and correct grammar and lust after corsets and debate cilantro or whatever, we are a heavily TV-addicted bunch, in my opinion. (And, also in my opinion, there's not a thing wrong with that.)

That said, my organizational side likes to keep things neat -- if I had my druthers, all drama would be in Drama, for instance, cable or not, with the possible exception of genre TV. I know that's not on the table here, and I don't intend to put it there, but aside from creating Day of the Week threads, I don't see anything aside from broadish categories such as Drama, Non-Fiction, and Comedy as a sensible demarcation point.

And *that* said, it seemed to me that the experimental threads got quite a bit of use. White font rules should be addressed again (although I was perfectly happy with them as created), because there's obviously some discontent there. And I think each possible new permanent thread should be proposed separately.

I think that we should not take into account (too much) the tivoing and rebroadcast of shows when deciding on threads. It's not fair to the people who have watched in real time to have to whitefont or wait for however long. Plus, it prevents a watch and post.

As for the bundling of the cable and the drama threads, I don't think that's a good idea. A lot of people don't get the pay channels, but Netflix or buy the DVDs. If you bundle the threads it makes it hard for people to do that.

I love all of the TV threads and am bereft without them! wah!

I think that the box on the left hand side for our published authors is a great idea and my "second" can be counted on.

Not sure where I stand yet, although I personally used Cable Drama and Comedy most. I want "Who Am I Kidding? I love to brag." for the new GWW name, when there is. Y'all just tell me what corner to stand on and I'll show up, ignorant opinions and all. Perhaps this is a Wirefiend inside joke but I'd be tickled by "Bureau XX: The Commander Likes the Dots." But probably three people in the world would think that was funny.

Ed Gein: Also, I sort of miss letting thread discussion kind of...morph, into whatever it was going to be. But that is easy for me to say, as I was one of the miscreants who crufted up the Movies thread with in-jokes, vulgarity and heng mai(crosses fingers) It was probably not as fun for all the people metaphorically stranded on the corner or at the Gem against their wills, though."Aw, man, it's frickin' Monday and they're doing it again..." I miss the *intimacy*(giggle, giggle) of former days. Although, I also appreciate the new level of focus. So. This post is probably useless