Well, if we followed the recipe...should be cake. A demon-violence-free-zone cake.

Lorne ,'Why We Fight'


Bureaucracy 3: Oh, so now you want to be part of the SOLUTION?  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


Sean K - May 18, 2007 10:40:13 am PDT #9304 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Wait, is that in response to me? I meant that you can't not close the existing thread, because that's untouchable via moratorium. New threads are not only not prohibited, but their potential was the point.

Not directly. Something you said triggered the thought, but I was not reading you as having suggested that.


Topic!Cindy - May 18, 2007 10:40:27 am PDT #9305 of 10001
What is even happening?

Are we going to construe the experiment proposal as written from preventing any kind of discussion, proposal or creation of a reality thread for six months? I hope not.

In my opinion Sean, no. The experiment wasn't meant to prevent those threads from ever being created, nor was it meant to sneak them in a backdoor and give them some foothold, where people could say, "But we've developed a subculture. You can't close it."

In other words, I wasn't pretending to experiment only to either establish these threads or prevent them from being established.

I was actually experimenting. If the experiment inspires someone to propose a thread on how to correctly lace shoes, then so be it.


Sean K - May 18, 2007 10:44:50 am PDT #9306 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

nor was it meant to sneak them in a backdoor and give them some foothold, where people could say, "But we've developed a subculture. You can't close it."

I'm in agreement with this.


bon bon - May 18, 2007 10:48:38 am PDT #9307 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

For myself I'd rather wait until June 1 because of discussion fatigue.

  • First, I'm not ready to pass judgment on the threads after only 18 days--(e.g. I've been too busy at work to keep up and would just go whitefont all the time with how I've been able to keep up with dramas).
  • Second, we JUST had a whole thing where we voted and everything and I'm not looking forward to rehashing merely a few weeks later. Not ready to fight yet.
  • Third, I'm worried that this long lead time until June 1 will favor the preferences of people who have the stomach to hash this out for two weeks.

I don't want to police the discussion, just want to persuade people that making all these evaluations, proposals, voting, hurt feelings and all that is way too soon. We have a moratorium for partly the same reason. Consensus here often changes based on how people "feel" the discussion is going, and there are too many factors at play to make that truly represent the will of the people in this context.


brenda m - May 18, 2007 10:54:32 am PDT #9308 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

bon makes a lot of sense. I would not be averse to tabling this discussion until June 1.

In the American sense, that is.

Allright, everyone back to your TVs!


Topic!Cindy - May 18, 2007 11:08:54 am PDT #9309 of 10001
What is even happening?

bon bon does make a lot of sense, brenda. So do you. Mmmm. TV.


Connie Neil - May 18, 2007 11:27:29 am PDT #9310 of 10001
brillig

I am not persuaded of the validity of some of the points brought up, but I accept the prevailing desire for delay. I formally rescind the proposal.

And just may be lurking on May 31st, at 11:59 PM board time out of a sense of sheer perversity.


esse - May 18, 2007 1:09:20 pm PDT #9311 of 10001
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

I'm surprised that it's been 18 days before we actually did get into a discussion about the threads, so I'm not sure discussion fatigue will actually happen. Really, at this point, given the contraints of the proposal, much more than stray thoughts and impressions seems unlikely, with the exception of the nonfic thread. I'm pleased that it's working so well and looking forward to using it when Top Chef comes back this summer.

I wonder about Cable Drama. I did before the experimentals were created, too. It's the core of the reason why I wanted to expand the use of the Premium thread--first of all, Premium doesn't get a whole lot of traffic generally, which is not to say that I don't think it works in its own capacity. And second of all, shows like the Riches and Nip/Tuck, I maintain, are similar thematically enough that there's a cross there I feel could be used and explored further.

The number of shows on cable that are new and have seasons are minimal when compared with those of the Networks, and it seems like our desire to talk about those shows pares the list down further. So I am wondering if my original thoughts about augmenting Premium are still useful.

Which obviously is not meant to be a proposal, and is more connected thoughts from pre-experimental with the present.


brenda m - May 18, 2007 1:31:53 pm PDT #9312 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Heh. I'ma laugh my ass off (and maybe cry a little) if we end up back there after all of this.

(Not that I'm opposed, mind. I personally think it might not be a bad idea. But still.)


sumi - May 18, 2007 2:31:46 pm PDT #9313 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

Everytime I see an ad for Rescue Me I think about how much fun it's going to be to talk about it in the Exp Cable Drama thread and then I remember that they're gone in June and get sad.