Joyce: You don't think it's too obvious? I think I look like I have a cat on my head. Buffy: But a very well groomed cat. Joyce: Well that's a comfort.

'Bring On The Night'


Bureaucracy 3: Oh, so now you want to be part of the SOLUTION?  

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§ ita § - Feb 01, 2007 12:31:00 pm PST #8397 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

both are dismissive, and given that once Drive airs the thread is going to be about the show, not necessarily distinguishable

If someone doesn't like the show and doesn't watch it (not that I always behave that reasonably), then they are functionally shut out from the thread, you're saying? Since it will be all about something of which they don't partake.

Well, yeah. But I don't see any way in which Allyson's curt advice is driving anyone out of the thread. Any more than not watching the show is unfairly driving anyone out of the thread.


bon bon - Feb 01, 2007 12:47:25 pm PST #8398 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

Well, yeah. But I don't see any way in which Allyson's curt advice is driving anyone out of the thread. Any more than not watching the show is unfairly driving anyone out of the thread.

Since no one else is posting I'm guessing this isn't the deal I thought it was. But if not feeling a promo makes someone want to punch me in the nose, I'll probably avoid the agita.


Dana - Feb 01, 2007 12:49:37 pm PST #8399 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

I do think that in the general scheme of things, it's wiser to bite one's tongue and not post, rather than leap into the fray with guns blazing to defend someone (usually someone who's perfectly able to defend themselves). But that's easy advice to give, and not an easy thing to do.


Daisy Jane - Feb 01, 2007 12:56:11 pm PST #8400 of 10001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

But if not feeling a promo makes someone want to punch me in the nose, I'll probably avoid the agita.

I don't think that's what she was saying. In my head (and in my head only) it went like this. Promo talk got people tetchy. Some people felt that people were thinking it was over before it began. Allyson was one of those people it made tetchy. She thought to herself, "Jeez, how am I going to react when a 'How could amy acer be sooo mean to captn' titepants' person comes in and starts dissing my friends. And so, she said she woul get pretty upset about it.

::curtain falls in DJ's brain::

ETA: I think, though, that if I'd read it the way you had, I can see the need for a discussion about it, because nobody wants anyone to feel like we can't seriously discuss a show.


§ ita § - Feb 01, 2007 12:57:03 pm PST #8401 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

But if not feeling a promo makes someone want to punch me in the nose, I'll probably avoid the agita.

That's not a decision I can argue with. But I figure that I do anger people who don't express it just as a part of me going about my day, online and off. Very few people lay out their inner workings the way Allyson is wont to once she's done pondering.

But I think she's different for saying it, not for feeling it.

This PoV is no doubt coloured by the fact that I want to smack people silly every now and again (even not at krav) and it doesn't mess with my day at all. I just don't do it, and maintain my veneer of civilisation.

Hopefully convincingly.


Allyson - Feb 01, 2007 1:04:00 pm PST #8402 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I'm just not really sure how to respond, bon.

I've already stated that I was sorry for bringing it up, because obviously it was my irrational issue.

The "move along" was curt, but in response to Juliebird's assertion that she's only watching out of loyalty, and asking if the promos were going to get better because they didnt do it for her.

My argument was (curtly) that this was indicative of what the show is, that they didn't get "better."

The subtext is that while Juliebird may watch the show for the loyalty reasons, she's likely going to miserable with the tone of the show.


Allyson - Feb 01, 2007 1:06:58 pm PST #8403 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Very few people lay out their inner workings the way Allyson is wont to once she's done pondering.

yeah, I do that. It's an achilles heel. It seemed worth getting out of my head at the time.

I love you too, bon, but I think we're in a disconnect, and it seems to be my fault.


joe boucher - Feb 01, 2007 1:35:32 pm PST #8404 of 10001
I knew that topless lady had something up her sleeve. - John Prine

Since no one else is posting I'm guessing this isn't the deal I thought it was.

My $.02. You weren't the only one who thought it got out of hand, bon. I agree that "move along" seemed to mean "okay, just don't watch the show," not "get out of the thread." But I thought Allyson's subsequent post escalated the tension way out of proportion. How does one get to "I reserve the right to go mental on anyone who says that Tim or Kristen are talentless hacks who smell of poo" from "if I wasn't already invested in watching the show for Tim and Nathan's sakes, that wouldn't have grabbed me"? That sounded like get out of the thread to me, declarations of I'm-not-the-thread-boss notwithstanding. You can do what you want Abe but the next time you see me coming you better run.


Aims - Feb 01, 2007 1:46:05 pm PST #8405 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Tamara said: However, since I know Juliebird, I am pretty sure that her comment wasn't coming from a "oh, that sucks" place as much as a "objectively, that didn't grab me as much as I would have liked and maybe I am not the ads demo" kinda place.

Knowing Allyson, I didn't take her post as, "Anyone who says shit about this show or my friends is gonna pimp-slapped." I can see how it was read as that, but like I said, knowing Allyson as I do and knowing how much she loves this community and the people in it and how much respect she has for it, the possibility of her taking it over the line never occured to me.

(Not attacking Tamara or anything. Just using that post as an example cause she knows JulieBird as I know Allyson. That's all. Does that make sense?)

Also, I had no beef with any of the posts. To put that out there and was really kind of confused when it had to come over here from Minearverse. I mean, no one asked Allyson over there to clarify or called her on her posts, that I recall. I know everyone's ping meter is different, mine just didn't go off. I just read what Allyson was saying as discussion, not trying to start anything.


Allyson - Feb 01, 2007 1:59:14 pm PST #8406 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Joe, I'm not sure that I was that unclear.

I was expressing something I was thinking, which is that I feel irrational, and wanting to stomp on someone for the comment made by Juliebird is an irrational thing, and that I feel like ass about that.

The second thing, that "I reserve the right..." is a right I think anyone has, here, when a Buffista is personally attacked, which is to go shithouse in their own special way...and by that, I don't mean something that gets one a warning in Bureau.

There's a difference between legit crit, and a personal attack, and that difference is, "I think the writing was hackish because..." and "I think that Buffista is a talentless hack."

I didn't get one thing from the other, I was talking about the difference between irrational response, and what sort of post would make that response a rational one.

I think it's rational to go mamabear when a friend gets kicked in the balls. Since Juliebird's post wasn't a kick in the balls, I brought up the sort of thing that deserves to be kravved.