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DavidS - Jan 03, 2007 9:16:28 am PST #7928 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Brenda, there's also the whole story about the novel which apparently he recycled from his blog three years ago. There's definitely been lying. Enough to reasonably question the death.

Aside from that, the whole episode is extremely typical for the pseudicide dynamic. The pattern is well established by now and this one goes by the numbers.


bon bon - Jan 03, 2007 9:17:31 am PST #7929 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

we're throwing out an awful lot of emotional energy here too.)

Jesse said this about 250 posts ago or so:

In a world like this where all we have to create community is our words, people feeling like they can't speak is what creates division, IMO.

And that's in line with what I'm thinking about wasting emotional energy. This always happens when there's a gash in the world here-- we plaster it with hundreds or thousands of posts. We just do. It's painful to read when you want the discussion over, but I don't think it can be stopped, and it always wears itself out after awhile. I've said a lot that we need these occasional temperature-taking, boards-on-boards bureau controversies and it's probably been over a year since the last time we reaffirmed what's important here.


tommyrot - Jan 03, 2007 9:19:07 am PST #7930 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

the whole episode is extremely typical for the pseudicide dynamic. The pattern is well established by now and this one goes by the numbers.

What other cases are out there? (Besides the one that Allyson wrote about.)


Nora Deirdre - Jan 03, 2007 9:19:25 am PST #7931 of 10001
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

question: what's the site that you look up PhDs?


Polter-Cow - Jan 03, 2007 9:19:39 am PST #7932 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

That's a fair point, but again, I think this has mostly been healthy

Yeah, I think this has been more of a diversion of emotional energy, if anything, and this way feels like accomplishing. It's Stage 1 of grief, after all, to an extreme degree.

What other cases are out there? (Besides the one that Allyson wrote about.)

There are gobs. I think Victoria Bitter is a particularly wacked-out case.


Dana - Jan 03, 2007 9:21:54 am PST #7933 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

What other cases are out there?

Oh, lord. There's one about every few months in fandom somewhere. I can check the fandom_wank wiki.

Edit: There are several links at the bottom of this page. [link]

I still argue for spelling it pseudicide, though.


Polter-Cow - Jan 03, 2007 9:23:48 am PST #7934 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

There's a whole list at fake_lj_deaths.


Monique - Jan 03, 2007 9:25:20 am PST #7935 of 10001

The thing I find interesting about Suicide by Internets/Fictitiously Killing Off Family Members is when you read up on them? They all start to sound the same. There's a definite mind-set/type going on.


tommyrot - Jan 03, 2007 9:25:59 am PST #7936 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

There are several links at the bottom of this page.

Thanks - I'll have to read those....


DavidS - Jan 03, 2007 9:30:42 am PST #7937 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

From the LJ on fake deaths.

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Clues to Detection of False Claims
Based on experience with two dozen cases of Munchausen by Internet, I have arrived at a list of clues to the detection of factititous Internet claims. The most important follow:
1. the posts consistently duplicate material in other posts, in books, or on health-related websites;
2. the characteristics of the supposed illness emerge as caricatures;
3. near-fatal bouts of illness alternate with miraculous recoveries;
4. claims are fantastic, contradicted by subsequent posts, or flatly disproved;
5. there are continual dramatic events in the person's life, especially when other group members have become the focus of attention;
6. there is feigned blitheness about crises (e.g., going into septic shock) that will predictably attract immediate attention;
7. others apparently posting on behalf of the individual (e.g., family members, friends) have identical patterns of writing.