But Cindy, didn't you mean to state that we're lending copies, when that's not really been the case?

And I'm not sure that the description doesn't already say what we need. You want it more explicit.

But Cindy, didn't you mean to state that we're lending copies, when that's not really been the case?

Okay, let's forget about the lending terminology for a moment. I'm not stuck on it. The thread (and therefore b.org as an entity), isn't doing any providing of copies (lending, giving or what have you) in any way. I want to keep it that way. I want to keep the B.org we separate from the we (they) of individual posters, outside of b.org's domain. B.org is and should only be giving people a space to post messages that don't involve violating the laws or our TOS.

B.org's space should be more explicitly defined only as a space for hooking up people who need copies of already-broadcast episodes, with people who have copies. The description we currently have already implies this is the purpose, because it mentions missing an episode, but perhaps the words already broadcast should be in the description, somewhere.

I also think we should be clear that the thread is not for the purpose of anyone making a profit off of those episodes. Lending/borrowing were just the terms that came to mind when I posted, because they seem outside of the profit making realm. What I would really like to see is no bargaining/bartering in our space.

How 'bout something along these lines:

It does happen to everyone. No, really. No need to be self-conscious.

Let us help you out. Missed an ep of something, Jossverse or otherwise? Ask here for help -- don't forget to include contact information, and come back and mention when you're no longer in need.

Legal stuff: This forum is open ONLY for the friendly trade of already broadcast episodes in exchange for reasonable costs (payable in small bills, naming rights for first-born children, oatmeal cookies, and the like.) We are not eBay. We do not wish to be eBay. Any violation of FCC, FBI, and Interpol laws (you own DVDs, you know what they are!) will be dealt with by the Stompy Feet immediately, so as to avoid the site being staked by Wolfram... er, by Fox Legal Department.

Natter will be summarily deleted

I don't see the point of the hand-wringing, Cindy. We are worried about people who don't particularly care about the consequences to us of their use of these boards. In other words, people who are newbies, trolls, or just plain dense. Changing the "rules" of WCBBT is not our defense against these people. We have a policy; all we can do is enforce it or inform. Making WCCBT consistent just doesn't matter.

I have to point out again that we don't run a government here. We don't have to be consistent, fair, or just, and we shouldn't make our lives worse trying to make it that way.

I think I'm confused. I read the last few posts here and then I went to look at Tape, expecting to see a bunch of requests for unaired WF eps, but there wasn't anything. I mean, there were 2 or 3 requests from people who had missed aired WF eps but that was it. The only requests I'm seeing for unaired are in Minearverse. It seems, to me, like people are using Tape correctly.

Am I missing something?

Am I missing something?

If you are, it's something I"m missing too. Tape's in control.

The "General" section of the FAQ has been updated with the changes coordinated by tina that I received two weeks ago. Sorry for the delay!

If you are, it's something I"m missing too. Tape's in control.

Yes. WCBBT is in control. The conversation I was responding to was your convo with sumi (posts 261 & 263). You mentioned we ought to be able to explain the difference at the drop of a hat. I just think pre-explaining it, in the thread definition, is easier than being prepared to explain it at the drop of the hat.

I don't see the point of the hand-wringing, Cindy.

One person's hand-wringing is another's participation in conversation, I guess, Shawn.

But WCBBT doesn't have a problem. Minearverse does. Explaining there, like Liese did, that we only traffic in missed episodes isn't much more complex (in fact, less) than pointing them to another thread's definition.

I'm sorry I started this confusion -- obviously I'd forgotten the essential ingredient to WCBBT (and I've used it myself!) -- the big problem is in Minearverse where people are openly discussing copying unaired episodes.