about taping stuff on a VCR from TV (which I thought was okay) and that the other stuff (i.e. burning copies of copyrighted stuff) was not.

Seems to me that the format is irrelevent. If it's aired, it doesn't matter if the copy is on tape or VCD. Most of the digital copies were made by digitally copying from a TV broadcast.

t /not wanting to get into the DMCA again

Jon - I guess what I expressed as VHS vs. DVD is really more clearly understood as aired v. unaired. I think someone actually answered my question above while I was typing.

Maybe while we're at it, we can reframe the definition/rules of WCBBT such that they're clear that people are borrowing recordings of already broadcast episodes, that were recorded for personal viewing—not for profit—and that no bartering/bribingish stuff is allowed on the board.

If some people's defintion of lending is, "You don't have to return it," and some people's way of thanking is to send blank tapes, and those sorts of discussions don't happen here, none of that is our problem.

In the Minearverse thread (because that's our primary problem) maybe we could just back up Liese, and state that duplicating unaired episodes is illegal. We don't want to see any requests for it, at all. People who intend to ignore that law will have to do so back channel, and not on the board.

I don't think Liese needs to be backed up -- her statement was firm and clear, and that way lies piling on.

we can reframe the definition/rules of WCBBT such that they're clear that people are borrowing recordings of already broadcast episodes

You mean lie?

Maybe this is something that needs to be said by the admin user id as well, just to make it official.

Liese, do you want to edit your post to mention you're a stompy?

Liese, I thought your post was clear and to the point. The thing that concerns me is it keeps coming up, ether some people are forgetting or they missed the posts earlier that addressed the issue. Perhaps a FAQ topic on this issue could clear it up for new people as they come?

On a related note, with all the visitors, newbies, et al--particualrly in the Minear thread, it may be wise if "official" stompy posts be made using the forum admin log-in, because I think a lot of the new folks don't know who does what by name here.

Just a suggestion.

Okay, late, but I did edit to mention I'm a stompy. Definitely not a bad idea to post as admin whilst official. Of course, I was only being officious, which is a whole different head. Heh. If I were to post officially, I prolly shoulda done it in the other order -- checked here first.

You mean lie?

No. Sorry I wasn't more clear. Sumi and you had this exchange, ita:

Though, I must admit that I'm not sure that "When come back, bring tape" fits the policy anymore.

I think the line, sumi, is between aired and unaired eps. But it's something we'd best be ready to explain at the drop of a hat.

Right now, the WCBBT description reads:

It does happen to everyone. No, really. No need to be self-conscious.

Let us help you out. Missed an ep of something, Jossverse or otherwise? Ask here for help -- don't forget to include contact information, and come back and mention when you're no longer in need.

Natter will be summarily deleted.

Now, I don't happen to think WCBBT appears to endorse anything that (from what Jon B has said, at least) seems improper. But I do think that rather than having to explain at the drop of the hat where that line is, we ought to just draw the line in the WCBBT thread description. That way, if/when any improper copying requests are made, and when y'all stomp them, you are asked to explain the difference, you can just point to the thread description.