"Girlie" music has lyrics about flowers and horses and unicorns.

Or not.

Maybe shopping is mentioned....

I only know "Beauty in the Breakdown," but I can see why that song wuld be considered "girly" (for certain values of girly). It has soft, fuzzy edges and a female vocalist, and there's nothing to play air guitar to. It's not macho music, anyhow.

But I don't think "girlie" should be an insult.

It has soft, fuzzy edges and a female vocalist, and there's nothing to play air guitar to. It's not macho music, anyhow.

As a comparison, he cites Sarah McLachli-howeveryouspellit as "girlie." And I just wouldn't put Frou Frou in the same category as Sarah Mc.

I only know "Beauty in the Breakdown,"

"Let Go."

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I called bullshit and told him it was electronica-esque, which is not what comes to mind when *I* think of "girlie" music.

I agree with you. I think more electronica/trip-hop with Frou Frou, not Sarah McLachlan. Is Azure Ray girlie? Portishead? Massive Attack's "Teardrop"?

Maybe shopping is mentioned....

So, the Pet Shop Boys, then.

And I just wouldn't put Frou Frou in the same category as Sarah Mc.

I think it depends how he's dividing music. They both seem to be both atmospheric, pretty music, though they come from different traditions --- Mclachlan is like a pop Tori Amos, where Frou Frou (from the little I know of them) is electronica-y. If the choice is girly vs. macho, I'd put them both on the girly side, though.

"Let Go."

Thanks. I suspected I was getting the title wrong, but I was too lazy to check.

Oh, suh_NAP!

Fans of small, pretty-voiced soprano Sarah Brightman will not be disappointed by this CD. In addition to some pop songs, Brightman sings high-flying excerpts from Orff's Carmina Burana, Puccini's "O mio babbino caro" (performed better by almost any other operatic soprano elsewhere), and "Alleluia" from Mozart's Exsultate Jubilate. One might call this a crossover disc; others might just see it as a recording featuring a pop singer with artsy aspirations. Whatever it is, Brightman's fans love her; others do not. Two duets with tenor Jose Cura remind the listener what opera singing really ought to sound like.

That's the official Amazon review explaining why "Time To Say Goodbye" is an official Amazon Essential Album (TM).

Anyone looking for a band name? Hasselhoffian Recursion is up for grabs.

Folks -- check out Andrew Bird at Better Propaganda ... I'm really liking "A Nervous Tic Motion of the Head to the Left". [link]

The only thing better would be if Andrew Bird performed as "The Hasselhoffian Recursion."

An update for Jilli on...

The Goth(ish) Video Tape

Here's the current selection, all ganked from VH-1's The Alternative. Some are borderline selections -- mostly they just seemed right and I figured Jilli would like them. So.

The Passenger - Siouxsie & the Banshees
The Carnival Is Over - Dead Can Dance
Ziggy Stardust - Bauhaus
The Weeping Song - Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds
Love Will Tear Us Apart - Joy Division
Dominion - Sisters of Mercy
Cuts You Up - Peter Murphy
Pearly Dew Drops Drop - Cocteau Twins
Peek A Boo - Siouxsie
Shadow of Love - The Damned
Fury Eyes - Creatures
Songs To the Siren - This Mortal Coil
Cities in Dust - Siouxsie
The Mercy Seat - Nick Cave
Mirror People - Love & Rockets
Revolution - The Cult
Dear Prudence - Siouxsie
Spirit - Bauhaus
In Between Days - Cure
Prince Charming- Adam & the Ants
Dance Along the Edge - Concrete Blonde
Atmosphere - Joy Division
Black Planet - Sisters of Mercy
Let's Go to Bed - The Cure
Just Like Heaven - The Cure
Deliverence - The Mission
More - Sisters of Mercy
Killing Moon - Echo and the Bunnymen (obviously not Goth, per se, and yet...)
Godzilla - Creatures
Sweet Jane - Cowboy Junkies (again, not Goth. Yet the right kind of moody. Plus points for recording in a church. Also, leads into the slightly more justfiable...)
Fade Into You - Mazzy Star
All Night Long - Peter Murphy
The Lovecats - The Cure
Moscovet Mosquito - Xymox
Spellbound - Siouxsie
Kiss Them For Me - Siouxsie
Walk Away - Sisters of Mercy
Anything - The Damned (Dave Vanian, naked in a shower)
No Big Deal - Love & rockets
Friday I'm in Love - The Cure
Cloudbursting - Kate Bush (not Goth. Start to deviate more towards Jilli-land here.)
Imagination - Xymox (more synth pop. But the girl has a really cute haircut so...)
Bloodletting (The Vampire Song) - Concrete Blonde (I didn't even know there was a video for this. Crumbling mansion etc. Very goth.)
Lucretia My Reflection - Sisters of Mercy
Closer - Nine Inch Nails (not Goth? But...pretty much defining everything around the scene for years to come.)
Everybody Knows - Concrete Blonde (does Ple hate this version?)
Rockin' Back Inside My Heart - Julee Cruise (David Lynch dreamland? Yeah, why not.)
Wuthering Heights - Kate Bush (what's more goth than Wuthering Heights?)