Sorry, Captain. I'm real sorry. I shoulda kept better care of her. Usually she lets me know when something's wrong. Maybe she did, I just wasn't paying attention...

Kaylee ,'Out Of Gas'


Buffista Music II: Wrath of Chaka Khan  

There's a lady plays her fav'rite records/On the jukebox ev'ry day/All day long she plays the same old songs/And she believes the things that they say/She sings along with all the saddest songs/And she believes the stories are real/She lets the music dictate the way that she feels.


Volans - Jan 19, 2005 11:26:56 pm PST #6942 of 10003
move out and draw fire

Having never paid attention to Sisters of Mercy or The Mission (UK) before, I have to say they're kind of like hair metal bands.

Is this why Sisters of Mercy kept swearing they weren't goth? I think the trend continues, though...I have to say that Evanescence is kind of like Metallica.


Jon B. - Jan 20, 2005 3:16:17 am PST #6943 of 10003
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

This whole concept of scene vs. sound cracks me up. What makes someone a Goth band vs. a Hair Metal band? It should be what they sound like, but people are so hung up on what "scene" everyone belongs to that they can't see past the self and PR assigned labels.

t edit because Hail is not Hair, unless you're the Snow Miser.


DavidS - Jan 20, 2005 8:45:24 am PST #6944 of 10003
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

What makes someone a Goth band vs. a Hair Metal band? It should be what they sound like, but people are so hung up on what "scene" everyone belongs to that they can't see past the self and PR assigned labels.

I specifically addressed this point in the book. Goth bands aren't even treated as belonging in "rock" (whatever that means anymore). Even Amoeba has a separate section for Goth and Darkwave. But it's sometimes difficult to separate or even hear the music that is strongly associated with a particular scene. Sonically Goth can be anything from the Creatures tribal drumming, to Liz Fraser covering Tim Buckley a capella to WaxTrax industrial to the Mission's pop metal to the Cure (who themselves are so sonically varied they can go from skewed pop to dense droning rock).

Indie Rock itself was just as varied musically, but lumped together by philosophy and association and scene.


Atropa - Jan 20, 2005 9:05:12 am PST #6945 of 10003
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

What makes someone a Goth band vs. a Hair Metal band?

Honestly? The way the guitar solo sounds. That's the only difference.

I've been told that there is an out-of-print CD called "The Pink and the Black" and it showcased goth and hair metal bands from L.A.'s scene in the early 90s. I haven't found a copy yet, tho'.


DavidS - Jan 20, 2005 9:19:53 am PST #6946 of 10003
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I've been told that there is an out-of-print CD called "The Pink and the Black" and it showcased goth and hair metal bands from L.A.'s scene in the early 90s. I haven't found a copy yet, tho'.

Oh, I've seen that. If I had but known you sought it...

Looks like it's available used at Amazon


Atropa - Jan 20, 2005 9:24:08 am PST #6947 of 10003
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Oh, I've seen that. If I had but known you sought it...

Waaaah! Well, if you happen to see it again, please oh please snag it for me and I will pay you back.


Atropa - Jan 20, 2005 9:24:33 am PST #6948 of 10003
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Looks like it's available used at Amazon

Whoo-hoo!


Atropa - Jan 20, 2005 9:26:04 am PST #6949 of 10003
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Oh drat. It's not actually in stock, Amazon will just let me place a 'pre-order' in case anyone has a copy to sell. I ran into the same thing on Half.com.


joe boucher - Jan 20, 2005 12:07:02 pm PST #6950 of 10003
I knew that topless lady had something up her sleeve. - John Prine

What makes someone a Goth band vs. a Hair Metal band?

In a Goth band Marvin changes his name to Diego. In a Hair Metal Band he becomes Märvÿn.


Scrappy - Jan 20, 2005 2:01:30 pm PST #6951 of 10003
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

And in an Emo band, he's called Marv, but he's really bummed about it.