Death is your art. You make it with your hands day after day. That final gasp, that look of peace. And part of you is desperate to know: What's it like? Where does it lead you? And now you see, that's the secret. Not the punch you didn't throw or the kicks you didn't land. She really wanted it. Every Slayer has a death wish. Even you.

Spike ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Buffista Music II: Wrath of Chaka Khan  

There's a lady plays her fav'rite records/On the jukebox ev'ry day/All day long she plays the same old songs/And she believes the things that they say/She sings along with all the saddest songs/And she believes the stories are real/She lets the music dictate the way that she feels.


DavidS - Dec 08, 2004 8:49:14 am PST #6331 of 10003
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Huh. To my ear, they all share a vocal quality that I can't quite articulate.

Well, as noted, the lead singer in two of the bands is the same guy. But yeah, there is kind of an indiepop/emo singing style. Also, the recording technique is generally not very slick, so it won't typically be run through Autotune or something like that.


Steph L. - Dec 08, 2004 8:56:46 am PST #6332 of 10003
It's actually been a really hard year, when you stop and do the math. Eliot would cry, too, if it didn't take him seventy minutes of therapy, two cocktails, and a Sondheim medley before he can experience a human emotion through the haze of his PTSD.

Like I said, I can't really describe it very well. It's like -- Dave Matthews and John Mayer have that earnest, I-feel-your-pain-now-let-me-feel-you thing going on, vocally.

The best way I can describe the vocal thing I get from the above indie-boy bands is -- slightly removed? See, that's not quite right. I want to say "ethereal," but I don't mean like Enya or the Vienna Boys Choir.


Lyra Jane - Dec 08, 2004 8:59:30 am PST #6333 of 10003
Up with the sun

I can see what you're talking about vocally with the Shins and Ben Gibbard, but to me Colin from the Decemberists has a different feel; he's more of a storyteller, where the others are more about feelings and impressions. I also think his voice is rougher.


DavidS - Dec 08, 2004 9:00:05 am PST #6334 of 10003
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Like I said, I can't really describe it very well. It's like -- Dave Matthews and John Mayer have that earnest, I-feel-your-pain-now-let-me-feel-you thing going on, vocally.

Strum Boys

The best way I can describe the vocal thing I get from the above indie-boy bands is -- slightly removed? See, that's not quite right. I want to say "ethereal," but I don't mean like Enya or the Vienna Boys Choir.

Wispy? Whiny? Twee? Ironic?


Steph L. - Dec 08, 2004 9:00:33 am PST #6335 of 10003
It's actually been a really hard year, when you stop and do the math. Eliot would cry, too, if it didn't take him seventy minutes of therapy, two cocktails, and a Sondheim medley before he can experience a human emotion through the haze of his PTSD.

to me Colin from the Decemberists has a different feel; he's more of a storyteller, where the others are more about feelings and impressions. I also think his voice is rougher.

Actually, I see that. Maybe I just threw the Decemberists in there b/c they're so new to me. Because when I first heard "July July," I thought it was TMBG for a minute.


Steph L. - Dec 08, 2004 9:02:42 am PST #6336 of 10003
It's actually been a really hard year, when you stop and do the math. Eliot would cry, too, if it didn't take him seventy minutes of therapy, two cocktails, and a Sondheim medley before he can experience a human emotion through the haze of his PTSD.

The best way I can describe the vocal thing I get from the above indie-boy bands is -- slightly removed? See, that's not quite right. I want to say "ethereal," but I don't mean like Enya or the Vienna Boys Choir.

Wispy? Whiny? Twee? Ironic?

Wispy!


DavidS - Dec 08, 2004 9:03:17 am PST #6337 of 10003
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Actually, I see that. Maybe I just threw the Decemberists in there b/c they're so new to me. Because when I first heard "July July," I thought it was TMBG for a minute.

That song was one of their earlier ones, and I've seen them (sort of) distance themselves from it now. A bit too obviously pop for their preferred direction. Still the catchiest Decembrist's song. Anyway, that song is atypical for them.


Lyra Jane - Dec 08, 2004 9:05:13 am PST #6338 of 10003
Up with the sun

when I first heard "July July," I thought it was TMBG for a minute.

Yeah, I understand that comparison. And really, where I get the Smiths has more to do with the lyrics than the musicianship.

And David, I think twee is more like the Softies or Belle and Sebastian -- athe aren't-we-precious singing style. I'm not sure what term I would use for what Teppy is describing -- "distanced" or "offhand" might be as close as I can get. "


Steph L. - Dec 08, 2004 9:10:39 am PST #6339 of 10003
It's actually been a really hard year, when you stop and do the math. Eliot would cry, too, if it didn't take him seventy minutes of therapy, two cocktails, and a Sondheim medley before he can experience a human emotion through the haze of his PTSD.

"distanced" or "offhand" might be as close as I can get.

Yeah, that's why I used "distant" above. I don't mean emotionally cold; just somewhat removed.


victor infante - Dec 08, 2004 9:12:34 am PST #6340 of 10003
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Ah, emo. I spent months trying to get someone to explain emo to me, to little avail. I finally decided that it's what would happen if punk lost it's spine and started talking about it's feelings.