I don't know if there's a consensus on this, but for me "artist I hate, song I love" will be someone whose music I don't generally like but who has a song I really like. Some of my favorite artists are loathsome people (yeah, i'm talking about you, Miles). So that isn't the criterion I'm using. If that's why you hate so and so, but s/he has a song you love, then use that.

"Guilty pleasures" I think has more to do with perception: I like it, but I'd be sorta embarassed for someone else to know I like it. Many of us here aren't easily embarassed & in fact are eager to stick up for generally frowned upon genres and/or artists on the general principle that it's the execution, not the chosen mode of expression that matters. Still, maybe you dig disco/country/Abba/John Denver/boy bands/fill-in-your-choice-here but wouldn't want that to get around. That's what my take on that category is.

for me "artist I hate, song I love" will be someone whose music I don't generally like but who has a song I really like.

That's how I defined it. Of course, I don't own anything by someone I don't like, so I had to root around for something.

someone whose music I don't generally like but who has a song I really like.

Ah, that was a category on the original Frankenmix, so i was wondering if this was something different.

It's still a hard one for me because it's very, very unusual for me to like one or two songs by an artist and (know that I) strongly dislike the rest of what they have done-- let alone have those songs in my CD or MP3 collections.

I may think "Sweet Emotion" or "Dream On" is more tolerable than "I Don't Wanna Miss A Thing," but it's more a case of "find Aerosmith generally fairly pleasant for hair rock, hate a few of their songs" than "hate Aerosmith, love "Sweet Emotion."" Similarly, "My Favorite Mistake" does not actually make me want to bitchslap Sheryl Crow, but that doesn't mean I want to download the thing or subject others to it. Of course there are CDs I've bought for the single and found pretty boring otherwise, but I don't think that fits the category, either, as my reaction to the other songs is usually not hatred so much as "meh."

Suspect I may be overthinking this just a tad.

I had a few songs I could have plunked in the "artist I hate/song I like" category. I didn't end up going with Limp Bizkit's "Break Stuff."

You all can thank me later. *g*

Usually I try to do some sort of flow with my mixes, but this one didn't bother me so much, just because it was so fun to see what I could put on there that someone might not know, or that might make someone say, "I haven't heard this song in years! I love this song!"

Lyra, I've had trouble with both the Guilty Pleasure and Song I Love By Artist I Hate categories.

I don't feel guilty about any music I like. I've got Bobby Sherman and Neil Diamond in my collection fer chrissake. Hmmmm, maybe a Stone Temple Pilots record would make me feel guilty. But I wouldn't own that and I don't take any pleasure in it. Who else - all the faux grunge bands seem particularly bankrupt to me, but again, no pleasure for me in Creed.

If I don't like somebody's music I usually don't hate them though. Just indifferent. For a long time the only Madonna I had was the 12 Inch for "Angel" because that's the only place you could get "Into the Groove." But I actively like some of her later stuff, and would probably pick up The Immaculate Collection if I saw it in the cut out bins.

It's a puzzlement.

Anyone else having trouble being witty with liner notes?

Writing about music is hard! t /talking barbie

Writing about music is hard!

Yes, it is, especially when you don't have the album or other reference materials handy. On that note, David, please change the Ornette quote in the Russell piece from "framework" to "background". (If you keep that part, of course.) </not so super secret message>

Thanks, Hec.

I'm not exactly *guilty* about anything, but there are some CDs I would rather not advertise my ownership of.

If I don't like somebody's music I usually don't hate them though. Just indifferent.

Same here. Well, there are some performers I find obnoxious or annoying, but that's almost completely divorced from their actual music.

Writing about music is hard!

Not if by "writing" you mean "babbling on and on." I am really really going to try to keep my liner notes to a minimum. I could easily write a little book for every mix I have ever made. But again, they are not so much cogent and informative as "blah blah disjointed thoughts on the nature of teen angst in new order songs, blah blah isn't jack white dreamy blah blah."

See, my babbling tends to sound like "ummm ... i think this is good. or something."

And I finally thought of some possibilities for the "hate artist, love song" slot that i already own and are not seven minutes long. Just keeping y'all apprised.

My liner notes are on the verge of short babbling, with occasion wit. Well, what I consider wit, anyway.