We're taking a moment ... and we're done.

Oz ,'Chosen'


Buffista Music II: Wrath of Chaka Khan  

There's a lady plays her fav'rite records/On the jukebox ev'ry day/All day long she plays the same old songs/And she believes the things that they say/She sings along with all the saddest songs/And she believes the stories are real/She lets the music dictate the way that she feels.


Sue - Feb 14, 2004 9:51:10 am PST #1017 of 10003
hip deep in pie

I have to add that the smoking ban in Boston/Cambridge has added immeasurably to my enjoyment of going out to clubs.

It's only a partial ban here, you're sooo lucky.

I love live shows. I love rock shows in bars, coffeehouses, folk festivals. I am not impressed with arena/stadium concerts. Too big and cold. Maybe if I was in the front row...but I don't think they are for me.

But then again, I don't go to many live shows these days. Mostly because the clubs where bands I like play start the show at midnight at the earliest, and I am becoming an old fart. I have to know it's going to be good to come home tired and smoky.

If you ever get a chace to see Mr. Waits live, kill everyone who stands in your way of tickets.

That's a given ;>


Lyra Jane - Feb 14, 2004 11:30:06 am PST #1018 of 10003
Up with the sun

But, for me, there's also an immediacy I get at live shows that can't be replicated in a recording studio -- it's that connection between artist and audience. The live bands I like the best are the ones where 1) you never know what you're gonna get and/or 2) the live versions of the songs have an emotional presence lacking on the CD. Bands that don't have either of those things? I'll see 'em occasionally, but won't go out of my way for them.

What Jon said. I really feed off the energy in the room, and I appreciate the connection with the artist and other fans.

But I don't like shows just because they're shows. If I'm not a fan of the performer, or they're playing a lot of songs I don't know/don't like, I often find concerts really boring and unpleasant.


erinaceous - Feb 14, 2004 2:43:26 pm PST #1019 of 10003
A fellow makes himself conspicuous when he throws soft-boiled eggs at the electric fan.

If I'm not a fan of the performer, or they're playing a lot of songs I don't know/don't like, I often find concerts really boring and unpleasant.

Wrod. It's especially bad when you've been dragged there by someone who LOVES the band, so you can't even bail early.

Sometimes, though, I have gone to shows where I had no idea what I was getting into, and really enjoyed them. Despite myself. Little Feat and LL Cool J, to name divergent (if not opposite) ends of the musical spectrum.


Anne W. - Feb 14, 2004 2:51:25 pm PST #1020 of 10003
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

For me, whether or not I enjoy a live show depends on a number of things.

How does the artist play off the energy of the audience? Also, does the artist manage to connect to the audience in some way?

Is the venue itself pleasant? If the place reeks, or I can't hear properly, or I can't get comfortable...

The kind of music makes a difference, as well. Jazz is often better live, as are both opera and folk music, but for wildly different reasons.


DavidS - Feb 14, 2004 2:53:25 pm PST #1021 of 10003
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I'm not a huge fan of live shows, though I've seen some great ones. The whole club scene is not conducive to anybody whose back gets sore after standing for an hour. JZ and I go out to shows where we're more likely to find a seat, so it tends to be oddball jazz/cabaret things. Or I pick by the venue - Bimbos and Cafe Du Nord both have seats.

I'll go to see a few acts though - I'd love to see Tom Waits but he sells out within an hour up here. Seeing The Cramps at the Fillmore on Halloween is always fun. But it really needs to be a killer combo of venue and act to make me go nowadays.


DavidS - Feb 14, 2004 2:54:35 pm PST #1022 of 10003
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Anne! Just got the Bebop. Many many thanks.

Tina! Just mailed Hayden's mix to you. I'll email you with my notes on it, since I didn't do that ahead of time. I sent it priority so it should be there by tuesday.


Anne W. - Feb 14, 2004 3:01:19 pm PST #1023 of 10003
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

Anne! Just got the Bebop. Many many thanks.

Yay! I can't wait to hear what you think about them. Vol. 3 still eludes me, which is irksome, since it is my favorite. I still have hope, though, that it will turn up as I continue to go through the Great Piles o' Crap that have been gathered in the basement.


tommyrot - Feb 14, 2004 3:40:22 pm PST #1024 of 10003
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

A Wired article about The Grey Album controversy. I had no idea the album had generated such good reviews. Anyway, the article talks about people's outrage over EMI's cease-and-desist order.

Copies of the album are going for $81 on eBay, the article says.

A day or two ago someone (I think it was Jon) posted a link to some good quality (192 kbps) mp3s of the album. Don't know if the mp3s are still there.


Kate P. - Feb 14, 2004 4:21:56 pm PST #1025 of 10003
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

Catching up:

Jon, I sent you Alicia's mix on Thursday; I often get bored at live shows (witness me nearly falling asleep at the Emmylou Harris show in October--and I love Emmylou!); and I adore logic puzzles, but the spreadsheet-types are too easy for me, so my favorites these days are Tsunami puzzles (you can find some on the Puzzler magazine website).


DavidS - Feb 14, 2004 6:00:07 pm PST #1026 of 10003
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Huh. I'm now listening to Cal Tjader's vibes-with-Moog instro version of..."Gimme Shelter."

This is very weird.