And again, I am filled with this image of Aragorn, son of Arathorn saying "Oh, you're a plumber.... what on Earth is that?"
Now there's a The Simple Life concept that could be worth watching.
Does anybody else miss the Mayor? 'I just want to be a big snake.'
Xander ,'End of Days'
LotR - The Return of the King: "We named the *dog* 'Strider'".
Frodo: Please, what does it always mean, this... this "Aragorn"? Elrond: That's his name. Aragorn, son of Arathorn. Aragorn: I like "Strider." Elrond: We named the *dog* "Strider".
A discussion of Lord of the Rings - The Return of the King. If you're a pervy hobbit fancier, this is the place for you.
billytea - Dec 22, 2003 6:35:51 pm PST #706 of 3902
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.
§ ita § - Dec 22, 2003 6:38:16 pm PST #707 of 3902
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Now there's a The Simple Life concept that could be worth watching.
Partner him with Legolas Greenleaf, and I'm there.
billytea - Dec 22, 2003 6:45:17 pm PST #708 of 3902
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.
Partner him with Legolas Greenleaf, and I'm there.
Yeah! Every day they interact with ordinary people and perform menial tasks, Aragorn comes home covered in crap from having fallen over multiple times trying to catch a piglet or something, Legolas is still pristine, smirking and thinking to himself "Still the prettiest".
JoeCrow - Dec 22, 2003 7:00:59 pm PST #709 of 3902
"what's left when you take biology and sociology out of the picture?" "An autistic hermaphodite." -Allyson
Eowyn's a daughter of kings too.
Yeah, but isn't that how the Kin-Strife started, a few centuries back? Them Rohans aren't real royalty. Numenoreans are supposed to marry Numenoreans, not jumped up barbarians. Did we learn nothing from Castamir?
Katie M - Dec 22, 2003 7:06:51 pm PST #710 of 3902
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies
Did we learn nothing from Castamir?
Okay, *that* made me laugh out loud for some reason.
Consuela - Dec 22, 2003 7:54:56 pm PST #711 of 3902
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix
Bwah, Joe Crow!
Lemme see, if Arwen uses Idril's sword, that's... t counts on fingers Argh. Her great-grandmother's sword? Tuor married Idril, who bore Elwing, who married Earendil and bore Elros and Elrond. Right.
Am-Chau Yarkona - Dec 22, 2003 11:34:18 pm PST #712 of 3902
I bop to Wittgenstein. -- Nutty
Every day they interact with ordinary people and perform menial tasks, Aragorn comes home covered in crap from having fallen over multiple times trying to catch a piglet or something, Legolas is still pristine, smirking and thinking to himself "Still the prettiest".
Have you read Bagenders? The Aragorn concept is similar.
Kathy A - Dec 23, 2003 12:46:12 am PST #713 of 3902
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil
An interesting article on the transformation of LotR into a family film.
Micole - Dec 23, 2003 1:49:19 am PST #714 of 3902
I've been working on a song about the difference between analogy and metaphor.
I don't think the films watered down the book characterizations; I think they humanized them. Not for the hobbits, who are from the book's perspective ordinary-size--but for the humans, and to a lesser extent for the elves and the dwarf. In the books the people are giants, people from the age of heroes, full of certainty. In the movies they are all much more unsure of whether they can meet the demands fate places upon them.
I could never connect with the book's Aragorn, who seemed to find it really easy to become king, at least from a mental perspective; the movie Aragorn, who struggles in TTT to reconcile his Elven upbringing with his Mortal blood and who in ROTK has to brace his shoulders after being crowned but before turning to the people of Gondor, is much more appealing to me than the book Aragorn.
That said, am I the only person who returns to the books and doesn't imagine the movie actors? They just fall away. There I am, thinking Aragorn's kind of a jerk again and Frodo is much thinner and browner and not nearly as pretty as Elijah Wood.
Cindy - Dec 23, 2003 1:53:31 am PST #715 of 3902
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scrappy, you are not alone regarding your feelings about Aragorn/Arwen, nor regarding your impression(s) of Eowyn--from first to last.
But as it was, it was about ten minutes where it was Frodo Is Dead, No Wait, He's Fine And Happy, Well Maybe He's A Bit Alienated, Oh Hey He's Completely Incapable Of Enjoying Life. Not enough time to sell the impact everything had on Frodo.
Now--don't get me wrong--I wish they'd been able to include the Scouring of the Shire, but I think Jackson sold us a steady diet of the impact that everything had on Frodo, throughout the movies, and didn't need to sell it at the end. We had this happy little hobbit, who grew thin, and pale, and wraith-like, and was slowly corrupted to the point where he more strongly identified with Gollum-Smeagol than with Sam. He couldn't remember what strawberries taste like. I was already there. The translation of this book to film didn't thrill me the way FotR did, but things like that worked.
Of course, I'm not very far from Sean when it comes to Faramir, either.
And just because I've been meaning to post this since Saturday night: * PIPPIN'S SINGING BROKE ME. *
eta...
That said, am I the only person who returns to the books and doesn't imagine the movie actors? They just fall away. There I am, thinking Aragorn's kind of a jerk again and Frodo is much thinner and browner and not nearly as pretty as Elijah Wood.
I didn't re-attempt the books (tried them when I was too young, and not so interested) until after FotR, so I keep the movie's actors in my mind. I know what you mean though, although for me, it's usually better to keep the people my brain gave me. For example, no film version of Little Women has ever replaced my head's own pictures of them, but that's good.