It's pretty clear that the reason why the spider passages are so frightening is that not only was Tolkien arachnophobic but so is Peter Jackson.
Bunnies frighten me.
Anya ,'Help'
LotR - The Return of the King: "We named the *dog* 'Strider'".
Frodo: Please, what does it always mean, this... this "Aragorn"? Elrond: That's his name. Aragorn, son of Arathorn. Aragorn: I like "Strider." Elrond: We named the *dog* "Strider".
A discussion of Lord of the Rings - The Return of the King. If you're a pervy hobbit fancier, this is the place for you.
sumi - Dec 20, 2004 10:20:29 am PST #3476 of 3902
Art Crawl!!!
Kathy A - Dec 20, 2004 10:21:24 am PST #3477 of 3902
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil
Connie Neil - Dec 20, 2004 10:23:14 am PST #3478 of 3902
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t avoiding Kathy's links with the fervor of a holy martyr
New Zealand, Australia--big-assed spiders mean no visits from me.
Kathy A - Dec 20, 2004 10:39:37 am PST #3479 of 3902
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil
Aww, but New Zealand also has the weta!
sumi - Dec 20, 2004 3:29:20 pm PST #3480 of 3902
Art Crawl!!!
Oh, I watched from Book to Script last night and I enjoyed seeing two of the other "endings" -- how people would have complained had they actually had endings for each member of the Fellowship. ( It shows Gimli working with a gem and Legolas wandering in an forest. . .perhaps Fangorn? )
Anne W. - Dec 21, 2004 4:35:44 am PST #3481 of 3902
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.
Oh, and watch the Cameras doc for sure, especially the bit about Sam's wedding! Let's just say that Sam and Rosie weren't the only two kissing on set that day...
I just about fell out of my chair. I imagine that the RPS folk are having a field day right about now.
Nutty - Dec 21, 2004 4:45:15 am PST #3482 of 3902
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
Nutty, why is Aragorn lying in that speech? I'd thought it apparent that Sauron didn't have the ring, because then his army wouldn't actually be massing to fight. It wouldn't have to. So things weren't over.
(In the novel, that battle begins with all of the good guys totally convinced they will be slaughtered pointlessly, and nobody questions the idea that Sauron would slaughter a bunch of upstart humans, just for shits and giggles, before going on to stomp the rest of the world with his might.)
In fact, we don't know what the ring would do on Sauron's hand -- in the movieverse, we know it doesn't make him invisible, and we can guess it makes him pretty scary, and have a nice strong swing. There are certain implications that he can make armies quail, but even in the battle at Barad-dur in the FOTR prologue, it is his army (plus him) against the Last Alliance army, and there's plenty of hand-to-hand.
So even if Sauron did have the ring at that moment, his army would probably still have had a major role to play; and I don't think Sauron would bluff that way except he thought he could pull it off -- so both Sauron and the good guys were presumably on the same page, where the necessity of armies is concerned.
§ ita § - Dec 21, 2004 5:04:25 am PST #3483 of 3902
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Who was it that said that Frodo wasn't dead? Who yelled that?
sumi - Dec 21, 2004 5:09:17 am PST #3484 of 3902
Art Crawl!!!
Pippin?
Kathy A - Dec 21, 2004 6:11:58 am PST #3485 of 3902
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil
You mean during the Mouth of Sauron bit? That was Aragorn, right after he lopped off the guy's head just for being lippy. A nice follow-up to his reassurance to Gandalf back in Edoras .