Nutty, why is Aragorn lying in that speech? I'd thought it apparent that Sauron didn't have the ring, because then his army wouldn't actually be massing to fight. It wouldn't have to. So things weren't over.
(In the novel, that battle begins with all of the good guys totally convinced they will be slaughtered pointlessly, and nobody questions the idea that Sauron would slaughter a bunch of upstart humans, just for shits and giggles, before going on to stomp the rest of the world with his might.)
In fact, we don't know what the ring would do on Sauron's hand -- in the movieverse, we know it doesn't make him invisible, and we can guess it makes him pretty scary, and have a nice strong swing. There are certain implications that he can make armies quail, but even in the battle at Barad-dur in the FOTR prologue, it is his army (plus him) against the Last Alliance army, and there's plenty of hand-to-hand.
So even if Sauron did have the ring at that moment, his army would probably still have had a major role to play; and I don't think Sauron would bluff that way except he thought he could pull it off -- so both Sauron and the good guys were presumably on the same page, where the necessity of armies is concerned.
Who was it that said that
Frodo wasn't dead?
Who yelled that?
You mean during the Mouth of Sauron bit? That was Aragorn, right after he
lopped off the guy's head just for being lippy. A nice follow-up to his reassurance to Gandalf back in Edoras
.
That was the bit.
My recollection of the scene is that
the Mouth comes out and says "Ha! We have your little friend, and we're perving with him right now!' Aragorn, reasonably rightly says "Bollocks, but just in case <wham>!"
I mean, if I were Sauron, I'd have sent
out the message of "I have my ring. Prepare to ..." Wait, I'd have sent no message at all either way. But still. If messaging were happening, I'd have told them I had the ring. Did he?
No, he didn't . . . which probably should have signalled to the quick-thinking that all was not lost.
I had problems with
the Voice. His, well, voice didn't seem synched to his mouth very well, and he talked too fast. I was wanting something more lower pitched and ominous, not just smarmy and icky
.
I did like that they kept
the Mouth's formal language from the book--the "thee"s and "thou"s. Other than that, he definitely wasn't ominous enough.
if I were Sauron, I'd have sent out the message of "I have my ring. Prepare to ..." Wait, I'd have sent no message at all either way. But still. If messaging were happening, I'd have told them I had the ring. Did he?
I don't think he did, in the film; but I don't think he did directly in the novel, either. Just got shirty and said something like, "Here are the terms of your surrender."
Which he might have said, in the film, if he had
still been in possession of his head.
It may be one of those consensuses that smells like bullshit, but I'm in favour of white fonting EE details until, say, the new year, so that those who're waiting on Santa to deliver have a chance to see it.
I certainly appreciated the whitefont over the five days it took me to see it.
