Mal: And I never back down from a fight. Inara: Yes, you do! You do all the time!

'Shindig'


LotR - The Return of the King: "We named the *dog* 'Strider'".  

Frodo: Please, what does it always mean, this... this "Aragorn"? Elrond: That's his name. Aragorn, son of Arathorn. Aragorn: I like "Strider." Elrond: We named the *dog* "Strider".

A discussion of Lord of the Rings - The Return of the King. If you're a pervy hobbit fancier, this is the place for you.


DXMachina - Jun 01, 2004 5:29:10 am PDT #2663 of 3902
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

Okay, so infuriate us already.


Allyson - Jun 01, 2004 6:15:15 am PDT #2664 of 3902
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

So, the bad guy was an eye on fire on top of a tower? I thought Eric the Viking dies in the first one, does his brother have the same name? Where the hell were the stinky elves going? Wasn't Frodo supposed to die? Did ita's Boytoy also go sailing, or is he a Knight of the Round Table? Aren't those hobbits a buncha ingrates for not throwing a party for the Frodo Contingency? I mean, they have celebrations for Snack Time, the little bastards.

What was CrazyAss Daddy's problem?


JohnSweden - Jun 01, 2004 6:25:51 am PDT #2665 of 3902
I can't even.

The eye was symbolic of his evil spirit, the whole actual eye thing in the movie brought to you by New Zealand's excellent psilocybin crop. Brothers Mir were similarly named. People in ye olden tymes had limited naming imaginations and didn't have access to MTV or the internet. Frodo doesn't die, getting his finger chewed off by filthy Gollum and getting kicked out of Middle-Earth are supposed to be punishment enough for his good deeds. Orly goes off to BoyToy heaven, eventually. He isn't the smartest elf in the boat. Yes, the hobbits are ingrates. They are party animals, but also Amish. No one should stand out. To be fair, they didn't start the party for Frodo, but they didn't stop the party, either. CrazyAssDaddy was mainlining too much Mordor crack via having one of those secret globes that Pippin found and screwed with. The flaming yoni was giving CADaddy secret happies in the White Tower and the guilt was just unbearable once the good guys showed up. (His sin is despair)

Got more? There was hair-washing behind the scenes, but apparently it just makes some guys look creepy.


DXMachina - Jun 01, 2004 6:26:22 am PDT #2666 of 3902
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

So, the bad guy was an eye on fire on top of a tower?

Yup

I thought Eric the Viking dies in the first one, does his brother have the same name?

The EtV scenes were a flashback. His name was Boromir, the brother is Faramir.

Where the hell were the stinky elves going?

To a place across the sea in the west where there are elf showers and they can live happily ever after.

Wasn't Frodo supposed to die?

Nope.

Did ita's Boytoy also go sailing, or is he a Knight of the Round Table?

He goes sailing later, after he works up a good elfly sweat with the dwarf.

Aren't those hobbits a buncha ingrates for not throwing a party for the Frodo Contingency? I mean, they have celebrations for Snack Time, the little bastards.

Yup.

What was CrazyAss Daddy's problem?

They didn't show it in the film, but he had one of those direct line to the flaming eye sphere thingies that almost drove Pippin all whackaloon.


Allyson - Jun 01, 2004 6:33:50 am PDT #2667 of 3902
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Why didn't anyone kick Pippin's ass? Why did the Orcs and gremlins retreat like the French when there were so many more of them than there were of the hairbags? Is the Eye on Fire dead now? I mean, it's an eye. Where the hell is the rest of him?

The wizard guy that fucked with Gandalfe is now powerless, how? He's being guarded by a tree?


Kathy A - Jun 01, 2004 6:44:18 am PDT #2668 of 3902
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

Why didn't anyone kick Pippin's ass?

The usual--he's the youngest and gets away with everything.

Why did the Orcs and gremlins retreat like the French when there were so many more of them than there were of the hairbags?

No more Eye on Fire directing them in their evil ways.

Is the Eye on Fire dead now? I mean, it's an eye. Where the hell is the rest of him?

He lost his corporeal body when the Ring was first cut off his hand by Head Hairbag back in the prologue of the first movie, and he needed the Ring to get it back. The question that JRRT never got around to answering was where the heck the Eye was planning on wearing the Ring since it is, in fact, just an eye. But, now that the Ring is not just merely dead, but really and sincerely dead, so's the Eye.

The wizard guy that fucked with Gandalfe is now powerless, how? He's being guarded by a tree?

Well, that's the theatrical release version. The extended is going to be a little more definite in how his story ends, even though it's a bit different than the book.


DXMachina - Jun 01, 2004 6:44:29 am PDT #2669 of 3902
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

Why didn't anyone kick Pippin's ass?

I think Gandalf really wanted Pippin to be killed by an orc. less paperwork that way.

Why did the Orcs and gremlins retreat like the French when there were so many more of them than there were of the hairbags?

You got it in one. Orcs are French.

Is the Eye on Fire dead now? I mean, it's an eye. Where the hell is the rest of him?

He's deader than a favorite Minear character during sweeps. He lost his body when the continent he was standing on decided to sink. His own fault, really.

The wizard guy that fucked with Gandalfe is now powerless, how? He's being guarded by a tree?

Well, actually... (There was a chapter in the book that they didn't bother to film.)


sumi - Jun 01, 2004 6:45:40 am PDT #2670 of 3902
Art Crawl!!!

So, I guess the answer to Allyson's question -- is yes -- he's being guarded by a tree. Until November when PJ will change that answer.


Topic!Cindy - Jun 01, 2004 6:47:12 am PDT #2671 of 3902
What is even happening?

Why didn't anyone kick Pippin's ass?

Because he's the cutest. And if they tried anything, ita would kill them.


Nutty - Jun 01, 2004 7:37:26 am PDT #2672 of 3902
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

So, the bad guy was an eye on fire on top of a tower?

Uh huh. Also, a huge lighthouse.

I thought Eric the Viking dies in the first one, does his brother have the same name?

Pretty much, yes.

Where the hell were the stinky elves going?

California. Actually, Catalina Island. It's all about this heaven-like, perfect-hair, never-sweat oasis of calm and nice clothes and beachy play. So, of course, humans are not invited.

Wasn't Frodo supposed to die?

He decided to pine for the fjords instead. And then go there! (He got a special invitation. Also, I mean, except for the whole slogging-through-a-volcano period, he cleaned up reasonably well. Except for the not wearing shoes.)

Did ita's Boytoy also go sailing, or is he a Knight of the Round Table?

I think he stayed for love of his stinky human and dwarfy companions.

Aren't those hobbits a buncha ingrates for not throwing a party for the Frodo Contingency? I mean, they have celebrations for Snack Time, the little bastards.

As far as they know, Frodo just went on a really long walk. They're a little clueless on the "I was (nearly) a teenaged Dark Lord!" front.

What was CrazyAss Daddy's problem?

He was crazy. Yeah, no, that part made no sense in the movie.

Why didn't anyone kick Pippin's ass?

It was too small. They could not find it with their Boots of Smiting.

Why did the Orcs and gremlins retreat like the French when there were so many more of them than there were of the hairbags?

They are wimpy. Also, it's tough to hold a Maginot line when you have no tanks and the very ground under your feet is flipping out.

Is the Eye on Fire dead now? I mean, it's an eye. Where the hell is the rest of him?

He went ZOT! When people go zot, even if they have no other body parts but an eye, they are effectively gone from this here earth.

The wizard guy that fucked with Gandalfe is now powerless, how? He's being guarded by a tree?

Yeah, pretty much. Gandalf took his job and had him demoted, so yeah.