Well, look at you. All dressed up in big sister's clothes.

Faith ,'End of Days'


LotR - The Return of the King: "We named the *dog* 'Strider'".  

Frodo: Please, what does it always mean, this... this "Aragorn"? Elrond: That's his name. Aragorn, son of Arathorn. Aragorn: I like "Strider." Elrond: We named the *dog* "Strider".

A discussion of Lord of the Rings - The Return of the King. If you're a pervy hobbit fancier, this is the place for you.


Kate P. - Dec 18, 2003 5:08:32 am PST #160 of 3902
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

I just remembered that the shot from the trailer of Eomer cradling someone (presumably Eowyn, or Theoden) on the battlefield and howling with grief wasn't in the movie. There was very little Eomer at all in the movie, which is sad. But at least that scene must show up on the EE DVD.


tina f. - Dec 18, 2003 5:20:19 am PST #161 of 3902

I know the Golden Globes are considered somewhat of a joke but WTF is up with no acting and no screenplay nominations for RotK?


ted r - Dec 18, 2003 5:21:15 am PST #162 of 3902
"You got twelve, and they got twelve. The old ladies are just as good as you are." -Dr. Einstein

Won't have a chance to see it before Saturday (so I appreciate all the white-fonting). I assume it will still playing then?


Nutty - Dec 18, 2003 5:22:45 am PST #163 of 3902
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Yeah, it's sort of weird, having seen all the promo footage, and knowing stuff that hasn't shown up "yet". There were scenes in the TTT previews that didn't turn up till the theatrical ROTK, which was sort of wiggy. Like, people, way to spoil your own movies, more than a year in advance!


§ ita § - Dec 18, 2003 5:23:38 am PST #164 of 3902
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't think they consider promos spoilage. They may consider them appetite whetters, in which case -- way to torture your audience.


Kate P. - Dec 18, 2003 5:25:24 am PST #165 of 3902
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

There were scenes in the TTT previews that didn't turn up till the theatrical ROTK, which was sort of wiggy.

Like the shot of Arwen lying on the bed with the leaves drifting over her, presumably dying? That's the only one I can think of. Someone behind me in line at Trilogy Tuesday said that shot was also in a trailer for FOTR but I don't recall it.


Nutty - Dec 18, 2003 5:29:56 am PST #166 of 3902
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Right. Also where she comes running up the stairs and just drops her long coat behind her. Further proof that the elves all wear wrinkle-free polyester.

I think there was one other item I remembered from the TTT promos, but I've spaced what it was.

You know, you notice how the FYC ad for ROTK, with Frodo and Sam, was from the climbing Mt. Doom scene? I had thought it was Frodo lying "dead" in Cirith Ungol, and was sort of surprised when he got the spiderweb body gove treatment.


Beverly - Dec 18, 2003 5:35:21 am PST #167 of 3902
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Another TTT preview scene that was in RotK was The helicopter shot of Eowyn standing alone on the near corner of Meduseld wearing a white dress and black vest/bodice/thingy.

I'm trying to arrange to see it again with DH late Friday morning. If he can't manage it, I'll have to go alone. I have to see it again--soon.


Kate P. - Dec 18, 2003 5:37:10 am PST #168 of 3902
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

I'm dying to see it again, but I despair of there being any tickets left for this weekend! Should have planned ahead, dammit.


JohnSweden - Dec 18, 2003 5:53:33 am PST #169 of 3902
I can't even.

SeanK and Katie M., I just wanted to say I loved and wroded up your frodo's journey as christian allegory discussion from earlier. I'm not a religious person. Tolkien has always made christianity work for me in a way that all the powermongering bastards that run organized religion never have been able to. I was going to say that if there was a church of tolkien writings, I'd belong to that, but I suppose I already do.

Having said those things, I really don't want to put other people off, because I strongly dislike that kind of "agenda-izing" about things I love, particularly this one, but it has always been there on some level, as the good professor intended, in his way. I'm much more about the overt mythologizing but I had to give Sean and Katie their props for an exchange that rang verytrue for me.