Faith: A kid. Angel's got a kid. Wesley: Connor. Faith: A teenage kid born last year. Wesley: I told you, he grew up in a hell dimension. Faith: Right. And what, Cordelia spent her last summer as… Wesley: A divine being. Faith: Uh-huh. Can I just ask--What the hell are you people doing?

'Why We Fight'


LotR - The Return of the King: "We named the *dog* 'Strider'".  

Frodo: Please, what does it always mean, this... this "Aragorn"? Elrond: That's his name. Aragorn, son of Arathorn. Aragorn: I like "Strider." Elrond: We named the *dog* "Strider".

A discussion of Lord of the Rings - The Return of the King. If you're a pervy hobbit fancier, this is the place for you.


Jessica - Dec 17, 2003 2:58:21 pm PST #121 of 3902
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

ita, that was Figwit!

I was so happy they gave him a line!


Sean K - Dec 17, 2003 2:59:37 pm PST #122 of 3902
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Figwit!

FIGWIT!!!! Hee! (Yes, I used to hang around the TORN boards, too. Yes, that Sean K was me.)


Theodosia - Dec 17, 2003 3:00:49 pm PST #123 of 3902
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Ohmigawd, they brought Figwit back? Coolness!

Raquel, I noticed the dog as well!

One more thing:

* I missed the "Legolas sees the ocean for the first time" moment that they should have put on film if they have any sense.


Theodosia - Dec 17, 2003 3:02:59 pm PST #124 of 3902
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Beverly, about the flaming ram -- that was supposed to be a *boar*, and it was called "Grond" after the Hammer of the Underworld. And yes, terrible and funny and destructive as all hell.


§ ita § - Dec 17, 2003 3:03:55 pm PST #125 of 3902
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Golradir. That's who I'd thought was Figwit.

The real Figwit's much hotter. I get it now.


Kate P. - Dec 17, 2003 3:08:41 pm PST #126 of 3902
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

I loved the dragon/boar/rhino battering ram too. It was on fire! Cool!

Theo, that would be great if they showed Legolas seeing the sea for the first time in the extended edition. I might argue that it wouldn't make much sense in the movie, because we haven't seen the bit where Gandalf tells Legolas to beware the sea, but then again, the EEs are really for the book-lovers anyway, so they might put it in for us.


Kathy A - Dec 17, 2003 3:14:53 pm PST #127 of 3902
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

My big cry point was, yes, a Frodo/Sam scene:

Sam talking about the Shire, and then we get Frodo's "Wheel of Fire" speech, which I was really hoping would be included in some form, and I think that EW just nailed it. I'm convinced of that because that's when I lost it and started sobbing during both my viewings.

I completely agree that Sam was planting one on Rosie offscreen, and thought that the other hobbits' reactions were great--we finally got a great smile from Frodo!

Oh, and a great little thing that I noticed today-- Narya! Yes, Gandalf's wearing the ring at the Grey Havens !


Sean K - Dec 17, 2003 3:18:35 pm PST #128 of 3902
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Oh, and a great little thing that I noticed today--

Which means it's pretty much a certainty that there's extended scene about that to come later, where they actually discuss it.


Kathy A - Dec 17, 2003 3:24:55 pm PST #129 of 3902
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

One question about Frodo's expression when all of Gondor is bowing down to him and his friends--did anyone else get the impression that he wasn't all that thrilled about the attention? I really thought that he was thinking, "But I failed--I didn't destroy the Ring myself!" This, of course, is one of the great LotR discussion points--in the end, did Frodo succeed or fail? My take is that he succeeded, since he only agreed to take the Ring to Mordor, and it was through his mercy that the Ring was destroyed.

Again, Elijah Wood deserves a lot more credit for acting ability than he's getting in reviews.


Kate P. - Dec 17, 2003 3:29:10 pm PST #130 of 3902
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

He definitely looked the least thrilled of all of them (Pippin was just the cutest!). I don't know whether Frodo thinks he succeeded or failed, but I do think it's notable that when he and Sam crawl out of Mount Doom, they say "it's finally over" rather than "we did it".