I think what my daughter's trying to say is: nyah nyah nyah nyah.

Joyce ,'Same Time, Same Place'


LotR - The Return of the King: "We named the *dog* 'Strider'".  

Frodo: Please, what does it always mean, this... this "Aragorn"? Elrond: That's his name. Aragorn, son of Arathorn. Aragorn: I like "Strider." Elrond: We named the *dog* "Strider".

A discussion of Lord of the Rings - The Return of the King. If you're a pervy hobbit fancier, this is the place for you.


Theodosia - Dec 17, 2003 2:40:17 pm PST #110 of 3902
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Finally catching up here -- between the sinus headache I had going in and the crying during, I got dizzy/nauseous after the movie and had to come home and lie down for a couple of hours.

Not that I was having an emotional reaction to the movie or anything. :-)

Just a few points --

* I loved how =happy= Gollum was to get the ring back -- all the way down the fall.

* Also loved how the Ring heated up and showed its lettering as it lay on the lava -- and then did dissolve. A friend at the showing said that she thinks the last thing you could see of it was the shadow of the letters, but she'll have to see the DVD to be sure.

* We also got one of the few small cheers in our mid-day theatre audience when the eagles swooped in on the remaining aerial Nazgul

* my crypoints were Pippin's song, Theoden's death, and the Pippin/Gandalf conversation about death. Billy Boyd was the biggest surprise about the movie for me. From the book I would have expected that Merry would have been the more dramatic part....

More as I think of them. Still well-satisfied, even if there's a bunch of stuff missing that I wanted to see.


Kate P. - Dec 17, 2003 2:40:49 pm PST #111 of 3902
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

Re: Aragorn and Eowyn, I thought he might be leading her on too with the cup thing, or he might not know the significance of the interaction to her. From her I got the sense that asking him to drink from her cup was a big deal and meant something significant; from him I mostly got the sense that he wasn't sure how to act around her because he *didn't* want to lead her on, and he was a little sad that he couldn't love her like she wanted him to.

Every time someone mentions their crypoints it makes me cry again. Possibly I should not have spent an hour listening to the soundtrack and sobbing in my room this afternoon.

Although I do understand the perspective of people who complain that slashers simplify complex relationships by making them about sex. I do. This way, though, I get to enjoy it on two levels.

In my experience, sex rarely simplifies a complex relationship. This is probably one reason why I find slash so appealing.

Oh, and when Sam gets up to go talk to Rosie at the Green Dragon? From the faces of the other hobbits, I thought he had just grabbed her and started kissing her--they all looked like they were thinking "oh, time to look away now." Anyone else get this impression?

Kathy, about Billy Boyd making up the tune? Fucking incredible. And I also agree about the music as Frodo crawls desperately up Mount Doom--that flute line is so gorgeous.


Volans - Dec 17, 2003 2:46:57 pm PST #112 of 3902
move out and draw fire

Oh, hey, and dogs at Meduseld! Or at least a dog.


Sean K - Dec 17, 2003 2:47:28 pm PST #113 of 3902
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

the disaster that is Brunhilde-Having-An-Orgasm Galadriel in FOTR

(I like that part of FOTR. Gives me chills every time, it does. I thought it a very effective rendering of the sequence.)


Kate P. - Dec 17, 2003 2:49:24 pm PST #114 of 3902
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

I like it too, Sean. Come sit in my corner.


Volans - Dec 17, 2003 2:50:38 pm PST #115 of 3902
move out and draw fire

OK, you guys can have my share of it then.


§ ita § - Dec 17, 2003 2:52:19 pm PST #116 of 3902
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Who was the elf that's telling Arwen last call for the Havens? He was hot. No Legolas (what scares me is that current incarnation of Mr. Bloom is far prettier, but some of those Legolas shots threatened to bleach celluloid with their glory) but pretty.


Kate P. - Dec 17, 2003 2:54:51 pm PST #117 of 3902
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

ita, that was Figwit!


§ ita § - Dec 17, 2003 2:56:46 pm PST #118 of 3902
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Get the fuck out of town! Of course, now I have no idea how to find the one I thought was Figwit and ask who he is.

Gimme a sec.


Beverly - Dec 17, 2003 2:57:16 pm PST #119 of 3902
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Re: Aragorn and Eowyn,

Every time someone mentions their crypoints it makes me cry again. Possibly I should not have spent an hour listening to the soundtrack and sobbing in my room this afternoon.

Kate is me, including the whitefont re: Aragorn and Eowyn.

Oh, and when Sam gets up to go talk to Rosie at the Green Dragon? From the faces of the other hobbits, I thought he had just grabbed her and started kissing her--they all looked like they were thinking "oh, time to look away now." Anyone else get this impression?

Yes, that's what I got.

Kathy, about Billy Boyd making up the tune? Fucking incredible. And I also agree about the music as Frodo crawls desperately up Mount Doom--that flute line is so gorgeous.

Also with the agreeing.

Oh, hey, and dogs at Meduseld! Or at least a dog.

I know! I was surprised into pointing at the screen and saying "Dog!" out loud. The people I was with hadn't been here for that conversation, so they thought me master of the obvious, and were a little concerned at that point. Fortunately, they were quickly distracted by the pretty movie. And did no one else but me love the flaming rhino ram? I thought it was hysterical and, you know, frightening, all at the same time.