Student ,'Touched'
There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."
The NYT review of the Norah Vincent book made it seem as if she didn't try to pass 24/7, but selectively. They also said her most interesting insights weren't into gender, but into social class (they focussed on her experience with a working-class bowling league).
Dude. She didn't just pass, she passed, and went bowling. That is dedication.
It's happened before; that jazz musician who was a woman passing as a man had at least one girlfriend who never knew, or swore she didn't.
Billy Lee! Had at least one wife, I believe.
Er, I know the Phranc song. That's really all.
On the floor of a trailer in Spokane, lies the body of a woman who lived as a man
It's also why I know how to pronounce Spokane.
It SERIOUSLY puzzles me, knowing what friends of mine go through with having people scream at them on the street, kick them out of bathrooms, etc, that she just magically managed to pass perfectly for a year and a half.
As noted, she wasn't in drag constantly. She did work closely with a professional makeup artist to find something to give her a five o'clock shadow that was easy to apply, easy on her skin and undetectable in daylight.
It was interesting that the woman she dated as a man still wanted to have sex with her after she revealed herself. Norah Vincent is a lesbian so it wasn't that surprising she pursued it.
eta: She had sex with a woman after she revealed herself. Actually three of the women she dated were interested in still pursuing it after she came out to them, but she only consummated one of them.
Dude. She didn't just pass, she passed, and went bowling. That is dedication.
She was on the bowling team for 9 months. Every Monday. She was terrible too and felt bad about dragging down her team, but they were always really supportive of her. The bowling team stuff was my favorite part - the most revealing and interesting and affecting. She came out to them after 6 months.
meara, I think you'd really like it.
Billy Lee! Had at least one wife, I believe.
Billy Tipton actually. Yes, he was married for many years.
I don't believe that she didn't know. But I am a big skeptical PITA who has in her top 10 favorite books one that says "Everyone lies." so YMMV.
I don't believe that she didn't know.
Don't underestimate the power of denial. People see and believe what they want to see and believe. Also, many marriages are sexless.
Don't underestimate the power of denial. People see and believe what they want to see and believe. Also, many marriages are sexless.
Hec, didn't Tipton claim a war injury or something had left him incapable of doing things in that way?
How very Hemingway.
Wikipedia (salt at will)
He told each of his wives that he had been in a grave car accident that had left him with unhealed ribs, genital disfigurement and sterility.
I'm currently reading The Land of Laughs, by Jonathan Carroll. I'm enjoying it, and reading along I'm getting more and more of an X-Files feel (or maybe a David Lynch feel -- just a sort of Things Are Not As They Seen vibe to it), and then -- the DOG TALKS ?!? That's exactly the point where I fell asleep last night, and I woke up at 3 a.m. and had to re-read that passage to make sure I hadn't dreamed it.
Now I need the rest of the day to fly by so I can go home and keep reading.