But I understand. You gave up everything you had to find me. And you found me broken. It's hard for you.

River ,'Safe'


We're Literary 2: To Read Makes Our Speaking English Good  

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


DavidS - Jan 24, 2006 8:35:35 am PST #9859 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Billy Lee! Had at least one wife, I believe.

Billy Tipton actually. Yes, he was married for many years.


erikaj - Jan 24, 2006 10:56:02 am PST #9860 of 10002
Always Anti-fascist!

I don't believe that she didn't know. But I am a big skeptical PITA who has in her top 10 favorite books one that says "Everyone lies." so YMMV.


DavidS - Jan 24, 2006 11:01:00 am PST #9861 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I don't believe that she didn't know.

Don't underestimate the power of denial. People see and believe what they want to see and believe. Also, many marriages are sexless.


P.M. Marc - Jan 24, 2006 11:33:47 am PST #9862 of 10002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Don't underestimate the power of denial. People see and believe what they want to see and believe. Also, many marriages are sexless.

Hec, didn't Tipton claim a war injury or something had left him incapable of doing things in that way?


Betsy HP - Jan 24, 2006 11:45:15 am PST #9863 of 10002
If I only had a brain...

How very Hemingway.


Betsy HP - Jan 24, 2006 11:46:22 am PST #9864 of 10002
If I only had a brain...

Wikipedia (salt at will)

He told each of his wives that he had been in a grave car accident that had left him with unhealed ribs, genital disfigurement and sterility.


Steph L. - Feb 03, 2006 6:16:41 am PST #9865 of 10002
I look more rad than Lutheranism

I'm currently reading The Land of Laughs, by Jonathan Carroll. I'm enjoying it, and reading along I'm getting more and more of an X-Files feel (or maybe a David Lynch feel -- just a sort of Things Are Not As They Seen vibe to it), and then -- the DOG TALKS ?!? That's exactly the point where I fell asleep last night, and I woke up at 3 a.m. and had to re-read that passage to make sure I hadn't dreamed it.

Now I need the rest of the day to fly by so I can go home and keep reading.


erikaj - Feb 03, 2006 6:21:11 am PST #9866 of 10002
Always Anti-fascist!

Does anyone know of a really good Calamity Jane bio? Because watching the fictional one on Deadwood has got me curious, and I don't wanna read a bunch of cocksuckers.


Fred Pete - Feb 03, 2006 6:25:47 am PST #9867 of 10002
Ann, that's a ferret.

Can't recommend any bios, but Doris Day made a movie based on her life, called (not surprisingly) Calamity Jane. It's a pleasant enough musical with a few great moments (like "Secret Love"). And lesbian subtext.


Hayden - Feb 03, 2006 6:27:31 am PST #9868 of 10002
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

There was an article on Slate or Salon a few months ago discussing a bio about Calamity Jane. You could try searching archives at both.