You know what the chain of command is? It's the chain I go get and beat you with until you understand who's in ruttin' command here.

Jayne ,'The Train Job'


We're Literary 2: To Read Makes Our Speaking English Good  

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Polter-Cow - Feb 25, 2005 6:34:20 am PST #7062 of 10002
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Pratchett fans: A Discworld fan film.


Susan W. - Feb 25, 2005 6:55:27 am PST #7063 of 10002
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Any fans of the traditional Regency romance out there? (Traditionals being shorter, generally less sexually explicit, and more mannered than Regency historicals, which are what I currently write.) The buzz that I'm hearing from writer-land is that both major publishers who currently publish trads (NAL/Signet and Kensington/Zebra) are considering discontinuing their lines unless sales pick up soon. So if you enjoy these books, do your bit for their survival and buy some new ones soon.

Kensington is trying a new approach with their Regency covers, moving from this and this to a more modern chick-litty feel like this: [link] and this: [link] Which is definitely an improvement--I hope it's not too little too late.


P.M. Marc - Feb 25, 2005 7:13:56 am PST #7064 of 10002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

The buzz that I'm hearing from writer-land is that both major publishers who currently publish trads (NAL/Signet and Kensington/Zebra) are considering discontinuing their lines unless sales pick up soon.

I wouldn't be shocked if it happened--to be honest, I've kind of expected it since F-C dropped the subgenre. And I *would* buy them, as a fan of the traditionals, except that (with the exception of about two or three Signet writers), the quality of the writing isn't up to scratch these days, especially in Kensington/Zebra.

It's a pity, because there used to be a high concentration of good writers in Traditional Regency.


Susan W. - Feb 25, 2005 7:27:04 am PST #7065 of 10002
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

I'm going to at least try the two new-cover Zebras I linked to, because I know the authors and those are their first books. Sort of a sisterhood thing, I guess--try the books, and if I like them, talk them up as much as I can.

It's weird, though, because the Signet editor I met at conference last year seemed more interested in acquiring trads than historicals--which disappointed me, because there's really no way in hell my wip could ever be edited into a trad. But I'm getting the impression Signet is kinda bearish on historicals in general, outside of their established authors. Which is too bad, because I think there's a wide open market for a major publisher to take some small risks within the subgenre--everything from moving beyond the medieval Scotland-Regency England-Victorian England range of acceptable settings to doing new things with the traditional settings. Like, oh, I dunno, gritty Regency historicals set on battlefields rather than ballrooms. Gee, who do I know who writes those? t looks in mirror What really interests me is that the most risk-taking historical publisher these days is Harlequin, who until very recently was going to give up selling historicals in the North American market except on their website and through their bookclub. Apparently the outcry was so great they changed their mind, and their guidelines say they're interested in anything from the ancient world through WWII.

Strange, this industry is. And just when you think you understand it, it flips around on you again.


Consuela - Feb 25, 2005 8:24:29 am PST #7066 of 10002
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

named in honor of Andre Norton

Oh, that's just fab. I grew up on Norton, and a lot of my stories have been very Norton-esque.


meara - Feb 25, 2005 9:38:50 am PST #7067 of 10002

I used to read a lot of the traditional Regencies--when I was younger, and my mom was cool with me reading those, since there was no sex. These days, I tend to read a lot of the bigger more sex-filled but still set in the Regency era ones.


Beverly - Feb 25, 2005 9:52:57 am PST #7068 of 10002
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Norton informed the world in my head, too. I occasionally come up with a particularly tidy bit of exposition that I have a tiny internal squee about, and then later realize I've merely canibalized and rewritten Norton. I read her at particularly impressionable periods, I think. And her world-building, language, and storytelling definitely still has an influence on me.

I include the usual pre-1985 qualifier, here. Or whenever it was that her stuff became "co-written." A writer friend mentioned that when she was a lowly copyeditor she actually essentially rewrote a Norton for publication. Probably the early to mid 80s.


Maysa - Feb 25, 2005 10:50:57 am PST #7069 of 10002

The buzz that I'm hearing from writer-land is that both major publishers who currently publish trads (NAL/Signet and Kensington/Zebra) are considering discontinuing their lines unless sales pick up soon. So if you enjoy these books, do your bit for their survival and buy some new ones soon.

That's depressing. I haven't read any in a while, but I used to love Carla Kelly, Mary Balogh, and Mary Jo Putney.


Susan W. - Feb 25, 2005 10:55:40 am PST #7070 of 10002
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

That's depressing. I haven't read any in a while, but I used to love Carla Kelly, Mary Balogh, and Mary Jo Putney.

All three of them are still actively writing, but none of them are doing traditionals anymore. Carla Kelly was until very recently, but her next book will be through Harlequin Historicals, and MB and MJP have been writing single title Regency historicals (and in MJP's case the occasional contemporary) for quite awhile.


P.M. Marc - Feb 25, 2005 11:31:20 am PST #7071 of 10002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Heck, even Metzger is doing historicals now. I don't know of any of the cream of the crop traditional writers from my youth who haven't moved on.