Buffy: He ran away, right? Giles: Sort of, more. turned and swept out majestically, I suppose. Said I didn't concern him. Buffy: So a mythic triumph over a completely indifferent foe? Giles: Well, I'm not dead or unconscious, so I say bravo for me.

'Same Time, Same Place'


We're Literary 2: To Read Makes Our Speaking English Good  

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


meara - Jun 01, 2004 2:30:50 pm PDT #2995 of 10002

Meara, did the font changes in this book make you crazy. or was it me?

To a certain extent, yeah. It threw me more the couple times she opened a new chapter from the POV of a new character--one we hadn't even heard of.

There's a LOT of cases where transpeople have been beaten, raped, killed. Hell, we had a rash of them last summer here in DC. It's really fucking depressing. The reality is bad enough--fiction needn't make it worse!


amyparker - Jun 01, 2004 2:46:59 pm PDT #2996 of 10002
You've got friends to have good times with. When you need to share the trauma of a badly-written book with someone, that's when you go to family.

For those of you who read Ursula K. LeGuin, which of her short stories -- short stories only -- would you say is her best, or her most still-relevant-today?

Nutty, I would suggest "Solitude", "Old Music and the Slave Women", or "Paradises Lost", all in The Birthday of the World, one of her recent collections.


hun_e - Jun 01, 2004 8:52:29 pm PDT #2997 of 10002
Meanwhile, back at the Hall of Justice...

I enjoyed Sunshine, though not as much as McKinley's other stuff. It reminded me a lot of her other stuff, like same plot, similar protagonist, different setting. If I had to pick I'd say Deerskin is my favourite, except when I re-read it, I always skip from where the queen dies to where Lissar is on her own. Just knowing what happens in that section is enough for me.


Dana - Jun 02, 2004 5:35:59 am PDT #2998 of 10002
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

That's the place I stalled out in the book the first time. I eventually managed to read past it, and I like the rest of the book, but boy, is that section horrific.

I wonder where my copy of The Outlaws of Sherwood is.


Consuela - Jun 02, 2004 7:09:21 am PDT #2999 of 10002
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I love Outlaws of Sherwood, but I've been writing too long, and the pov issues make me cranky. Which is a disappointment, because I really do think it's a marvelous version of the tale.


Betsy HP - Jun 02, 2004 7:43:55 am PDT #3000 of 10002
If I only had a brain...

I didn't love the Orsinian stories, but I can't tell you why.


Katerina Bee - Jun 02, 2004 8:00:43 am PDT #3001 of 10002
Herding cats for fun

I have a big love for "Deerskin." I can hardly bear to read that bad section, but I always do. I sort of feel responsible to be with Lissar and witness her story throughout. This may be partly because of the cover art - the woman's face would be a dead ringer for my friend Alice (who passed away recently), were her hair and eyes black instead of white.


Micole - Jun 03, 2004 7:03:22 am PDT #3002 of 10002
I've been working on a song about the difference between analogy and metaphor.

Nutty, I'm atypical in that I much prefer Le Guin's later short fiction to her earlier, and I also hate "The Ones Who Walk Away from Omelas." But I would recommend "Solitude," or one of the novellas in Four Ways to Forgiveness, for your purposes. Or maybe "The Matter of Seggri."

A lot of her recent work has been novella length, though, which maybe too long for your purposes?


Nutty - Jun 03, 2004 7:09:51 am PDT #3003 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Right. Although the short story cycle and the novella are big issues in this editor's world -- he was like "So many people have never heard of the short story cycle!!" and I said, not a problem with my people! -- we just don't have the space. Or rather, we could have the space, except Melville's got a novella, and between Melville and Le Guin, in an American fiction anthology, I know who wins.

The Seggri story and Solitude are indeed two I pointed out to him, and the others Amy recommended.


Typo Boy - Jun 03, 2004 7:16:19 am PDT #3004 of 10002
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Hmm - curious as to what you disliked about "Omelas".