Squeee!
I just think you're freakin' out 'cause you have to fight someone prettier than you.
Dawn ,'The Killer In Me'
We're Literary 2: To Read Makes Our Speaking English Good
There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."
Susan W. - Dec 10, 2003 8:43:16 am PST #189 of 10002
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights
Nutty - Dec 10, 2003 9:04:05 am PST #190 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
How are these classifications made? Is it the audience of a book or the writing?
They're made by hook or by crook (or by the individual choice/policy of the library). Usually the book is classed according to where people are most likely to look for it (sames time and queries). For children, the librarian usually evaluates the material and chooses whether it should be for all children, or classed in YA for older children. I know several libraries that put the Goblet of Fire book in YA, because of the death at the end (and will presumably continue in that vein to the end of the series).
If I'm using song lyric references for chapter titles in a book, what is the best way to credit them? An appendix at the end.
Gar, you will be required to credit them. Probably on-page, not in an appendix. You will be required by the copyright owners, who will demand large sums of money to allow you to reprint song lyrics. (Unless the song was published before 1924.)
(I'm assuming that one sentence references are still fair use - that even under stricter copyright laws,I don't have to secure permission.)
This is so in large works, like whole books, where citing one line is practically nothing, but song lyrics are notorious for (a) being so short that citing one line is considered not fair use; and (b) requiring outrageous license fees -- which the copyright owners can set as arbitrarily as they choose. I'm told some owners set fees prohibitively high, just to make sure they don't get quotes from here to eternity.
Strix - Dec 10, 2003 9:22:09 am PST #191 of 10002
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger
Confused: Are we talking movie rights, or a new trilogy (re: Carey)?
Micole - Dec 10, 2003 9:31:46 am PST #192 of 10002
I've been working on a song about the difference between analogy and metaphor.
Books. Time-Warner has a publishing division; their sf/f imprint is Warner Aspect.
Strix - Dec 10, 2003 10:36:26 am PST #193 of 10002
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger
Oh, cool! That should be a fun series!
Typo Boy - Dec 10, 2003 1:11:52 pm PST #194 of 10002
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.
Betsy and Nutty - thanks so much for the warning. So up to seven words (credited on the same page) is OK?
Nutty - Dec 10, 2003 1:37:33 pm PST #195 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
I don't think it's a hard and fast rule, Gar. It's percentages -- if the source is 100 words long, 1 word is 1%. If the source is 1 million words long, then 500 words are practically nothing.
Long story short: there is probably no way on earth to fit song lyric quotation into fair use, when you are publishing something. I can't think of a publisher in the US who would not insist on requesting permission for every singly music cite, just to be safe.
Betsy HP - Dec 10, 2003 1:38:17 pm PST #196 of 10002
If I only had a brain...
[A writer I know and trust who is published by one of the big publishers] says her publisher lets her get away with seven words of song lyrics per song without buying rights.
Vortex - Dec 10, 2003 7:03:21 pm PST #197 of 10002
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman
For the 11 year old mysteries, I'd also recommend the Trixie Belden series (11 or 12 year old protagonist), possibly out of print. I loved mystery/fantasy as a child, why can't I remember more books? Grr.
Kat - Dec 10, 2003 7:15:56 pm PST #198 of 10002
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo
I'd also recommend the Trixie Belden series (11 or 12 year old protagonist), possibly out of print.
They're back in print now and being re-released!