I'd also recommend the Trixie Belden series (11 or 12 year old protagonist), possibly out of print.
They're back in print now and being re-released!
Gunn: You ready? Fred: Is no an acceptable answer?
'Lineage'
We're Literary 2: To Read Makes Our Speaking English Good
There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."
Kat - Dec 10, 2003 7:15:56 pm PST #198 of 10002
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo
deborah grabien - Dec 10, 2003 7:22:08 pm PST #199 of 10002
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.
I don't know about songs, but with poetry, at least, permission is definitely required. I have the only permission that I know of to use Edna St. Vincent Millay's verses and verse fragments as chapter heads (in And Then Put Out The Light). Her estate insisted on reading the MS first, and then gave permission and waived the fee.
I would imagine living lyricists are at least as strict, no?
Lyra Jane - Dec 11, 2003 7:02:18 am PST #200 of 10002
Up with the sun
But I thought Gar was talking titles, not actual lyrics? Aren't titles fair use regardless?
Aims - Dec 11, 2003 7:05:13 am PST #201 of 10002
Shit's all sorts of different now.
Trixie! Trixie! Trixie!
deborah grabien - Dec 11, 2003 7:42:42 am PST #202 of 10002
It really doesn't matter. It's just an opinion. Don't worry about it. Not worth the hassle.
Aren't titles fair use regardless?
Just titles? That, I really don't know about. I did get permission in advance to mention Fairport Convention in "Matty Groves", but that's a very specific version of the song, linked to a particular band.
Would ASCAP or BMI or whoever have that info at their website?
DavidS - Dec 11, 2003 7:48:26 am PST #203 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
Would ASCAP or BMI or whoever have that info at their website?
ASCAP, ASSCAP...weird confluence of meanings.
bon bon - Dec 11, 2003 7:56:43 am PST #204 of 10002
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.
Copyright isn't something I know a lot about, but taking a guess, I think reference to a song by its title is fair use. Like, "I was listening to 'Baby Got Back' on the radio today." But using the artistic creation of someone else to enhance your own-- titling a book or chapter "Baby Got Back", e.g.-- is different. It bleeds from the work that goes into artistic creation.
msbelle - Dec 11, 2003 8:11:17 am PST #205 of 10002
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb
I have finished You are not a Stranger Here by Adam Haslett for bookclub this month. I really enjoyed it and am glad that I chose to read a collection of short stories. We will probably never read another collection as a bookclub book (the last one was "Stranger Things Happen" by Kelly Link) since they are rather hard to discuss as a whole.
This collection deals a lot with loss of various types and peoples' reaction to it. The characters are easy to read, even if their circumstances are not. If that makes sense.
I thoroughly enjoyed it and recommend it. It is pretty short, I managed just about 1 story on each commute.
DavidS - Dec 11, 2003 8:13:45 am PST #206 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
titling a book or chapter "Baby Got Back", e.g.-- is different. It bleeds from the work that goes into artistic creation.
Emma Bull's War of the Oaks uses famous rock song titles for every chapter name, and I duobt she paid royalties on each one of those. Kind of doubt she even got clearances. We could ask Scrappy!
Betsy HP - Dec 11, 2003 8:21:45 am PST #207 of 10002
If I only had a brain...
But it's routine to title books from fragments of poetry -- somebody put up a very funny Web page awhile back that spelled out almost the entirety of Yeats's "The Second Coming" in book covers. Even though The Second Coming is still under copyright, people title books "The Widening Gyre" without any permission from the Yeats estate.