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Firefly Spoilers  

Discussion of all Firefly episodes, including "Trash", "The Message", "Heart of Gold", and any movie news.


Betsy HP - May 27, 2005 5:16:54 am PDT #932 of 1424
If I only had a brain...

We had Summer at our screening! She is so tiny and so cute in person.

We got a rock. (No cast members in SF.)


Kalshane - May 27, 2005 5:18:48 am PDT #933 of 1424
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

Was it a big rock? Did you tell all your friends?


tommyrot - May 27, 2005 5:19:55 am PDT #934 of 1424
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

We got a rock.

Did you get a piece of string to wind around it?


sumi - May 27, 2005 5:22:58 am PDT #935 of 1424
Art Crawl!!!

Over at Whedonesque I've heard that not only was Summer in Chicago, but Ron Glass was in Minneapolis, Morena Baccarin (and her mother) were in DC, Jewell Stait was in Denver and that Alan Tudyk was supposed to be at the Portland screening but had to be in NYC for Spamalot so Portland got Chris Buchanan (producer of Serenity and Firefly) instead. Nathan Fillian was in Sacramento.

This is all I've heard so far.

We didn't stick around for autographs -- well, it was late and I don't collect autographs and am not sure what I'd say to Summer anyway, you know?


Kalshane - May 27, 2005 5:23:53 am PDT #936 of 1424
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

While I still think there are pacing problems in the climax, I am willing to admit some of my problems are probably due to the character in question and not just how it was handled. I'm curious how popular Wash is with the group at large.

Though I love them all, if I had to rank the crew in order of favorite to least favorite, it would probably look something like Kaylee, Wash, Book, Mal, River, Jayne, Zoe, Simon, Inara

Edited to clarify: This list is post OiS. Before that, River ranked last.


Frankenbuddha - May 27, 2005 5:27:19 am PDT #937 of 1424
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I think Wash is (or was *sniff* ) Firefly's Xander - that is, he's Firefly's Joss stand-in. I'm curious, possible meta issues aside, if Joss always planned on killing Wash, if he would have killed someone else if Alan had wanted to continue, or if they all would have made it out.


Theodosia - May 27, 2005 5:28:07 am PDT #938 of 1424
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

I thought we got some good quality Simon in the movie, but not enough of any of the cast except for Mal and Summer.


sumi - May 27, 2005 5:28:45 am PDT #939 of 1424
Art Crawl!!!

I loved Wash -- and I really loved the relationship between Wash and Zoe. His death was shocking but it didn't ruin the movie for me.

I really wanted to know Book's backstory. I hope that we will get it sometime.


Betsy HP - May 27, 2005 5:34:26 am PDT #940 of 1424
If I only had a brain...

Wash is my second-favorite character after Kaylee.

I am outraged, but it's funny outrage. I thought the death was a useful plot point, appropriately handled. Wash *did* get his moment -- we saw the impact of his death through Zoe, and through the rest of the cast's reaction to being told he wouldn't be coming.

For me, this was like Buffy killing Angel: horrible yet inevitable. Death in war is random, does strike without warning, and does kill the wise, the lovable, and the brave.


sumi - May 27, 2005 5:55:05 am PDT #941 of 1424
Art Crawl!!!

It was horrible and random -- but it certainly didn't move me to join the "Save Wash" movement.