Thanks for the early reviews, guys.
scifi.com has one up:
http://www.scifi.com/sfw/issue282/screen3.html
they gave it an A-
The King of Cups expects a picnic. But this is not his birthday!
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Firefly Spoilers
Discussion of all Firefly episodes, including "Trash", "The Message", "Heart of Gold", and any movie news.
candyb - Sep 19, 2002 6:21:37 am PDT #5 of 1424
Jessica - Sep 19, 2002 7:40:49 am PDT #6 of 1424
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?
The wierdo pro-Confederacy, anti-government, anti-Establishment vibe. I know they're like, small-r rebels, not big-r rebels, but I feel like I showed up at an early NRA convention. "States' rights! Now and forever!" I don't know about you, but I'm glad the Union won the Civil War.
Yeah, I got that vibe too. It helps to think of it as The Empire/Republic. (Complete with snarky antihero™! Antihero comes with dusty brown clothes, slacker attitude and held-together-by-duct-tape ship. Princess in need of rescue sold separately.)
candyb - Sep 20, 2002 6:32:09 am PDT #7 of 1424
Tom Shales didn't much care for the first ep of Firefly.
I don't have links, but USA Today and that guy from TV gUide that loves Buffy gave the first ep decent-good reviews.
Jessica - Sep 20, 2002 7:46:32 am PDT #8 of 1424
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?
I've read one review (can't remember where, or I'd link) that said Firefly was better than BtVS because the characters are more accessible. (Now, personally, I think they were heavy into the monkey crack when they wrote that, but it does bode well for the popularity of the show.)
candyb - Sep 26, 2002 4:26:49 pm PDT #9 of 1424
Herc on AICN said:
The Reavers, said to be modelled upon the Old West’s more bloodthirsty Native American tribes, remain phantoms in “Firefly.”
Anyone know anything more about these scary guys?
P.M. Marc - Sep 29, 2002 9:03:45 pm PDT #10 of 1424
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
Blah blah blah...
Soooo....
Any one know if Doug Savant will be back?
Michele T. - Sep 29, 2002 9:10:33 pm PDT #11 of 1424
with a gleam in my eye, and an almost airtight alibi
Apparently, episode #4 is Ben Edlund's first, and it's a Jayne-centric episode.
Matt the Bruins fan - Sep 29, 2002 9:19:52 pm PDT #12 of 1424
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
Is it pigeonholing to expect much in the way of whimsy and ironic character twists?
Typo Boy - Sep 29, 2002 10:31:52 pm PDT #13 of 1424
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.
The Reavers, said to be modelled upon the Old West’s more bloodthirsty Native American tribes, remain phantoms in “Firefly.”
Hmm - it is worth remembering that the Old West's more bloodthirsty American Indian tribes were fighting to recover stolen land. Not that it excuses the rapes and such, but more Indians were victims than were victimizers. And also belonging to such tribes was not generally infectious. The tribes considered themselves nations, not races, so it was not unknow to admit outsiders to membership. But it was not common either (except sometimes for children). So, being apache was not considered infectious.
Is it possible that in drawing these historical comparisons, Joss does not know any actual history? I thought he was a lit major of some sort, which usually involves learning some history as well?
le nubian - Sep 29, 2002 10:44:41 pm PDT #14 of 1424
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
Typo Boy -
you actually just hit on some stuff that was bothering the heck out of me and why I ultimately knew the distinct parallels with the Old West would be unacceptable at some point.
I'm not going to make assumptions just yet but at this point, I'm skeptical.