The "Previously" at the beginning of Heart of Gold (which is just about all I've seen of it since I was only able to download about 5 min) shows scenes from The Message.
This is so nice. Having everyone together for my birthday. Of course, you could smash in all my toes with a hammer and it will still be the bestest Buffy Birthday Bash in a big long while.
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Discussion of all Firefly episodes, including "Trash", "The Message", "Heart of Gold", and any movie news.
bicyclops - Jun 13, 2003 8:59:14 am PDT #170 of 1424
Griffyn - Jun 13, 2003 12:18:57 pm PDT #171 of 1424
A person's concepts should exceed their vocabulary, or what's a metaphor?
The "Previously" at the beginning of Heart of Gold (which is just about all I've seen of it since I was only able to download about 5 min) shows scenes from The Message.
And from Trash as well, which places it after the two that have later production numbers. What of OiS? That came after HoG in production and doesn't contradict what happens at the end of HoG which Message and Trach both do. So, is it Trash, Message, HoG, OiS? OiS, Trash, Message, HoG? Something else? I'm leaning toward the latter rather than the former because the end of HoG makes such a great cliffhanger for the second season. And I can't believe that the story is ending, so loose ends assist my delusion.
Griffyn - Jun 13, 2003 3:19:16 pm PDT #172 of 1424
A person's concepts should exceed their vocabulary, or what's a metaphor?
Just rewatched OiS. It has the same problem in coming after HoG as Trash and Message. Either HoG should go last in the series or Joss and Tim dropped a big ol' bombshell on us at the end of one episode and then completely ignored it for the rest of the season.
victor infante - Jun 13, 2003 3:22:57 pm PDT #173 of 1424
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.
When I think about Inara's distance from everyone in OiS, I suspect it might be last. Not sure, though.
Griffyn - Jun 13, 2003 4:14:46 pm PDT #174 of 1424
A person's concepts should exceed their vocabulary, or what's a metaphor?
Not so sure on OiS being the last. She voices the same concerns in it that she does in Trash which seem to not be there so much in HoG. She wouldn't be complaining about it if she were sticking to her word, she'd be working on doing what she said she'd do.
Trying to obscure the details for those who might not have seen it yet. Whitefont might be easier...
Why would Inara be concerned that they havn't been going anywhere with a decent clientelle if she was intending on leaving? I'd think she'd either be discussing her departure or making arrangements to find another transport.
victor infante - Jun 13, 2003 4:35:13 pm PDT #175 of 1424
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.
Dude. You're in a spoiler thread. White font not neccesary.
And I had forgotten that point, so yeah, I think you're right. Looks like HoG is last.
So I guess the real order is War Stories, OiS, Trash, the Message, HoG?
Makes sense to me.
Griffyn - Jun 13, 2003 4:38:36 pm PDT #176 of 1424
A person's concepts should exceed their vocabulary, or what's a metaphor?
That's my assumption on the order as well. Someone needs to get Tim in here to set us right about it. But until that happens, I'm going to go with the above as the proper story order.
Frankenbuddha - Jun 13, 2003 8:10:25 pm PDT #177 of 1424
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
Or frelling Joss who was in the regular Firefly thread. Oh well.
So why was HoG scheduled and then shelved in place of OiS? Because OiS was a better episode? Or because it was a Joss episode? Everyone knows the order of the season was fudged for various reasons, and if HoG was obviously later, then maybe they had that in place in case Fox dropped the axe early (no puns intended), but, when they thought they might have another chance, they pulled out OiS as a big gun ep?
Griffyn - Jun 13, 2003 8:18:47 pm PDT #178 of 1424
A person's concepts should exceed their vocabulary, or what's a metaphor?
I think it'll take someone 'in the know' to set that record straight. Hopefully the DVDs will all be in proper story order, or at least give us some sort of explaination why the cliffhanger from HoG gets ignored in all three later episodes.
Frankenbuddha - Jun 13, 2003 8:50:54 pm PDT #179 of 1424
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
I think it'll take someone 'in the know' to set that record straight. Hopefully the DVDs will all be in proper story order, or at least give us some sort of explaination why the cliffhanger from HoG gets ignored in all three later episodes.
Or, welcome to Farscape/Twin Peaks, the next generation if it really was the last episode of those completed.