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'The Message'


Firefly Spoilers  

Discussion of all Firefly episodes, including "Trash", "The Message", "Heart of Gold", and any movie news.


beekaytee - Sep 29, 2005 12:16:38 pm PDT #1413 of 1424
Compassionately intolerant

Wearing costumes for regular showings is also not of the good

I'm kinda looking forward to the geekpeeping tomorrow night. It has to be more fun than "leafpeeping". (planning a vacation around staring at vegetation has always mystified me.)

Then again, I'll be incognito...passing as a normal person. Must. control. squeeing.


AnthonyDe - Sep 29, 2005 12:31:43 pm PDT #1414 of 1424
A One that isn't cold, is scarcely A One at all.

I apologize deeply. You are only reciting the propaganda plastered all over your city's back pages.

If anything it puts ones concept of fanaticism in perspective. In pregame celebration Islander and Ranger fans fought on the ice, dressed in Santa suits! Then I move out here and go to a Dodger game where you can hear the resounding roar of golf claps. People walking around in costume? Could be worse, just saying.

Pages which the Mets would surely like to grace for reasons other than their mediocrity, poor souls. Still, the team's got potential.
It's fun to root for the underdog.

I can imagine scenarios, where it's a "race to the upload button" situation, where, the button being pressed, he recognizes that his job can't be done, and, like, invites himself over to Serenity for breakfast. But that wasn't what was scripted.
I thought for sure when the Operative showed up again he was going to announce he was becoming a shepherd. Glad that didn't happen.


§ ita § - Sep 29, 2005 1:06:26 pm PDT #1415 of 1424
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Since Book could have been successfully played in the movie by a non-retarded white male, it's an error to call the role, even slightly, magical in its negritude. Sometimes melanin is just melanin.


Matt the Bruins fan - Sep 29, 2005 1:16:45 pm PDT #1416 of 1424
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Honestly I can't think of a single line or moment in the entire series or movie when Book's (or Zoe's, for that matter) race had any bearing whatsoever. Something that I applaud the creators for.


Strega - Sep 29, 2005 4:57:00 pm PDT #1417 of 1424

Oh, Matt, I didn't mean to cause paranoia! You certainly never said anything I found insulting.

In general, people criticizing my work or me as a writer doesn't bother me, because that's what I do and it's only fair. Pscyhoanalyzing me, and accusing me of hidden motives bugs me... unless it's really funny. And I feel like this is horribly self-absorbed so I'm gonna hush.


KernelM - Sep 29, 2005 5:38:27 pm PDT #1418 of 1424
Ankh-Morpork Watchman, Dreamer, Scooby, Minister of Grace, Still Flyin' in a Zoo2 World

Psychoanalyzing and attributing hidden motives? Gosh, TWOP recappers certainly never did that.

I find it interesting that the large majority of people reviewing the movie who hadn't seen the series before liked the movie just fine. But I guess they're just Studio Yes Men.

Also? Shut up, Strega. (Or wait, are we only allowed to say that to fictional characters that annoy us?)


§ ita § - Sep 29, 2005 5:41:31 pm PDT #1419 of 1424
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Kernel, it seems you're feeling very personally attacked here. However, you're getting explicitly personal, and that's not kosher.


Kristen - Sep 29, 2005 5:42:47 pm PDT #1420 of 1424

KernelM, maybe you're trying for funny but you've crossed way over into rude.


KernelM - Sep 29, 2005 5:53:13 pm PDT #1421 of 1424
Ankh-Morpork Watchman, Dreamer, Scooby, Minister of Grace, Still Flyin' in a Zoo2 World

Sorry. Was feeling venty, should have done it elsewhere.


Allyson - Sep 29, 2005 6:23:00 pm PDT #1422 of 1424
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

The apology is due in Strega's direction.