Zoe: Jayne. This is something the Captain has to do for himself. Mal: No! No, it's not!

'War Stories'


Firefly Spoilers  

Discussion of all Firefly episodes, including "Trash", "The Message", "Heart of Gold", and any movie news.


Topic!Cindy - Sep 28, 2005 8:40:52 am PDT #1329 of 1424
What is even happening?

I wanna hear.


Cashmere - Sep 28, 2005 8:41:06 am PDT #1330 of 1424
Now tagless for your comfort.

I definitely want to hear your opinion, Allyson.


§ ita § - Sep 28, 2005 8:50:26 am PDT #1331 of 1424
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Well, it's not been a very good lovefest, what with people already complaining, so I don't think there's a cherry here to pop.


ChiKat - Sep 28, 2005 8:50:49 am PDT #1332 of 1424
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?

Are you saying the non-fan's experience will be insufficient? Insufficient to what?

I think it will be emotionally unsatisfying. While the tension gets knocked up some, in the movie Wash is a minor character. Minor characters get sacrificed all the time in action movies.

What's the scale it's being judged on.

My scale. Which is, of course, the One True Scale.

Will Wash's death mean less to the first time viewer than the death of a character in your average decent ensemble movie? If so, why? Do you think Joss did a less than averagely decent job of painting Wash as a valuable and rewarding-to-watch character?

Yes, I do think that because I don't think his character was developed enough.


Nutty - Sep 28, 2005 9:02:53 am PDT #1333 of 1424
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Is it all right for me to discuss why I thought the movie was awful,

I didn't hate it, but I did see it as severely flawed.

For one thing, that scary-scary that is lurking out in the woods, soon to pick off the screaming teen underwear-clad girls one by one?

Is a lot less scary when you can look at it and see that it is only Rob Zombie and a bunch of his friends, dancing to thrash music. (That goes double when a ballerina can keel them all ded easy as pie.)


tommyrot - Sep 28, 2005 9:24:18 am PDT #1334 of 1424
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Yeah, the Reavers are exactly as I would have pictured them, which was a big disappointment, as I wanted them to be more freaky and unexpectedly scary and what-not.


Topic!Cindy - Sep 28, 2005 9:27:56 am PDT #1335 of 1424
What is even happening?

(That goes double when a ballerina can keel them all ded easy as pie.)
If a Nutty can kill a cheetah on a squash court, there's no telling what a ballerina can do.


§ ita § - Sep 28, 2005 9:34:40 am PDT #1336 of 1424
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Damn, I hate COMMing whitefonted. I'll have to let that one slide.


Jon B. - Sep 28, 2005 9:48:44 am PDT #1337 of 1424
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Nutty killed a cheetah on a squash court?

A Cheeto I can understand. So long as it doesn't get you first.


Frankenbuddha - Sep 28, 2005 10:34:41 am PDT #1338 of 1424
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I'd like to chime in and say I've been curious about Allyson's opinion since her @@4EVAH comment a few days ago.