I think the assumption that only "us" will care is ... well, probably not one made at the time of writing, and it's not one I hold either.
I do think that only "we" will feel a big impact from Wash's death. The non-tv-viewers will feel that wratching up of tensions, but I don't think the movie provides enough insight to Wash in order to really experience the death. It's like the death of a close friend vs. an acquaintance. Impact, yes. But to what extent?
While the movie sets up some of who he is, one big thing that isn't set up well is the relationship between Wash and Zoe. I was upset by Wash's death, but I was more upset for Zoe having to go on without him. She's a strong woman and she'll make it through, but not before she has to go through a lot of grief. That tore me up.
I don't think the movie provides enough insight to Wash in order to really experience the death
Are you saying the non-fan's experience will be insufficient? Insufficient to what? What's the scale it's being judged on.
I agree it'll be
less,
but I don't think it won't be affecting. And I don't see how it can't be less. Most everything's going to be less if you go in without the history and affection and expectations.
Will Wash's death mean less to the first time viewer than the death of a character in your average decent ensemble movie? If so, why? Do you think Joss did a less than averagely decent job of painting Wash as a valuable and rewarding-to-watch character?
Is it alright for me to discuss why I thought the movie was awful, or is that going to cause great pain and some craxiness? I don't really want to inflict either on the thread, but I've been wanting to discuss why I thought it smelled of poo. I'll hold back though and stick to my LJ, no harm done, if everyone needs the lovefest.
Dude, lovefests suck. Post away.
I definitely want to hear your opinion, Allyson.
Well, it's not been a very good lovefest, what with people already complaining, so I don't think there's a cherry here to pop.
Are you saying the non-fan's experience will be insufficient? Insufficient to what?
I think it will be emotionally unsatisfying. While the tension gets knocked up some, in the movie Wash is a minor character. Minor characters get sacrificed all the time in action movies.
What's the scale it's being judged on.
My scale. Which is, of course, the One True Scale.
Will Wash's death mean less to the first time viewer than the death of a character in your average decent ensemble movie? If so, why? Do you think Joss did a less than averagely decent job of painting Wash as a valuable and rewarding-to-watch character?
Yes, I do think that because I don't think his character was developed enough.
Is it all right for me to discuss why I thought the movie was awful,
I didn't hate it, but I did see it as severely flawed.
For one thing, that scary-scary that is lurking out in the woods, soon to pick off the screaming teen underwear-clad girls one by one?
Is a lot less scary when you can look at it and see that it is only Rob Zombie and a bunch of his friends, dancing to thrash music. (That goes double when a ballerina can keel them all ded easy as pie.)