According to Uncle Joss(tm)(c)(r), Mr Universe ISN'T an internet blogger. I've got him on record about that.
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That's hilarious.
My god...he's gonna do the whole speech.
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Discussion of all Firefly episodes, including "Trash", "The Message", "Heart of Gold", and any movie news.
Allyson - Sep 27, 2005 12:44:15 pm PDT #1287 of 1424
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
§ ita § - Sep 27, 2005 12:45:08 pm PDT #1288 of 1424
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Hey, just because that's not what he was thinking, doesn't mean it's not true.
Scrappy - Sep 27, 2005 12:47:47 pm PDT #1289 of 1424
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.
Hell, I wrote a play which was done in readings twice before I figured out it was about my marriage breaking up. Once I saw it, it totally was, but it never entered my mind for a second while I was writing.
Allyson - Sep 27, 2005 12:50:27 pm PDT #1290 of 1424
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
Once I saw it, it totally was, but it never entered my mind for a second while I was writing.
It's kind of neat when your mind sneaks up on you like that.
Allyson - Sep 27, 2005 1:29:22 pm PDT #1291 of 1424
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
Cashmere - Sep 27, 2005 4:42:11 pm PDT #1292 of 1424
Now tagless for your comfort.
Didn't see that one coming. Bloggers getting their BVD's in a bunge? Naaaah.
I've been posting about the film in my blog, anyway and so I posted their synopsis in exchage for a free screening.
Fairly simple terms. And for the record, the theatre folks weren't feeling people up for their picture cell phones at my viewing or threatening in any way.
As for the film. That Joss Whedon is a right bastard. *sniff*
Michele T. - Sep 27, 2005 5:03:26 pm PDT #1293 of 1424
with a gleam in my eye, and an almost airtight alibi
When I first saw it, I saw the political analogy first, and wondered how conservatives were going to react to the 'people power' story. (I also think, on that level, it's an example of the ways in which liberals tend to believe that if people only had the facts, they'd make the correct (aka liberal) choice about matters, when in fact what we all want is a compelling narrative to buy into, which is why the liberals keep losing, gah, but I digress.)
Then I thought about it and realized it was also a story about the fall and rise of the Firefly crew, and on a certain level it couldn't NOT be, if we take Joss at his word about how traumatic that cancellation was for him. I think a lot of writers, like Robin, like myself, find looking back on our work that the stories we're drawn to are about the things we're working through for ourselves.
This reading, however, makes Wash's death more annoying to me, since it takes a story that can be read as a valentine to the show's fans and adds a spike to it by killing off a character who plays a secondary enough role in the film that the only people who are going to be really upset by the death are the people who helped get the film made in the first place - i.e., the show fans.
(One of my coworkers has become a huge fan of the DVDs since the time I saw the film. He keeps quoting Wash at me. I really don't want to have to deal with him on Monday.)
Cashmere - Sep 27, 2005 5:08:04 pm PDT #1294 of 1424
Now tagless for your comfort.
I feel almost exactly the same way I did when I saw The Empire Strikes Back.
I think the film is this weird growing up moment for me. The joy of the series is there. And the fun and excitement of the film is still there. But there is a sad kind of realization that it will never be as whole and as perfect in my mind again.
I think it's something that was needed but it leaves me with a teeny empty hole. It's like when I found out Santa doesn't exist, but that I still get presents.
Cass - Sep 27, 2005 6:13:23 pm PDT #1295 of 1424
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.
The meta gets all tangled up in the movie.
As for the film. That Joss Whedon is a right bastard. *sniff*When I saw it in May, I had to rush into this thread finally just so I could say this...
tommyrot - Sep 27, 2005 7:03:18 pm PDT #1296 of 1424
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
x-posted from Firefly - MSNBC article: Can a failed TV show spawn a successful film?
I'm posting this here because if you look at the "related articles" sidebar, one of the links is Memorial videos played right on the tombstone.
I'm almost positive the "related articles" links on MSNBC are chosen automatically, by looking for words in the main article that also show up in the "related articles." Why was this one included? The subheading of the article is, "Solar-powered 'Serenity Panels' offer ultimate in personalization." The name seems to be coincidental.