You got all kinds of learnin' and you made me look the fool without tryin', and yet here I am with a gun to your head. That's 'cause I got people with me. People who trust each other, who do for each other, and ain't always lookin' for the advantage.

Mal ,'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


Firefly Spoilers  

Discussion of all Firefly episodes, including "Trash", "The Message", "Heart of Gold", and any movie news.


Anne W. - Sep 07, 2005 2:40:10 am PDT #1215 of 1424
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

when he was gonna go down to "check" on his "personal effects" - what was the deal there?

Plus, I think that after what had happened, he wanted to be close to his sister, even if she wasn't aware he was there.


Mr. Broom - Sep 07, 2005 5:33:14 am PDT #1216 of 1424
"When I look at people that I would like to feel have been a mentor or an inspiring kind of archetype of what I'd love to see my career eventually be mentioned as a footnote for in the same paragraph, it would be, like, Bowie." ~Trent Reznor

Exactly. The person who means the most to you in this entire 'verse is in a box in the cargo bay, you'd most likely find it hard to stay away, cover or no cover. Notice how intently he looks at the box during the Dobson is Clumsy sequence; I don't see him checking readouts. I see him staring at all he has in the world, and staring at it exactly like you would stare at the only thing you have in the world.


Kate P. - Sep 07, 2005 6:21:33 am PDT #1217 of 1424
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

The thing I'm wondering about is - when he was gonna go down to "check" on his "personal effects" - what was the deal there? Did the box have a vital signs readout or something?

That was always my assumption.


Cass - Sep 07, 2005 8:37:56 am PDT #1218 of 1424
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

I got the sense from the episode Serenity that he knew it was her, he was anxious about the effect defrosting her too early would have, and he was terrified he'd be turned in.
This was exactly how it read to me when I saw it.


Katerina Bee - Sep 09, 2005 8:44:59 am PDT #1219 of 1424
Herding cats for fun

Okay. I’ve put a lot of thought into this, and this is how it’s going to go down. Certain plot points distress me, and my course of action is clear.

I shall access the time-space-art continuum by channeling the indominitable spirit of Scotty and re-routing the tachyon flow through the hoominafrabitzer (blah blah blah plausible fake science for the nerds blah blah blah). Just after the landing, I’ll step into the frame from the left. I’ll lean over, grab Wash’s right hand, and pull him out of his seat just before the beam comes crashing through the windshield (vacuum shield?). While the crew is busy goggling at all the destruction, I’ll step back out of frame. If all goes well, I’ll have just enough time to give Captain Tightpants a pat on his back canvas as I flash a big shit-eating grin. Alert viewers who pause their DVDs will forever wonder about my “Outlaw Plot Repair” T-shirt. The rest of the Big Damn Movie can continue as scripted. (Sorry Book. Hope there will be more backstory someday). Everyone will be too busy to worry about WTF?! during the rest of the scene anyway. They can thank me later. Sorry Joss, hate to rap you on the knuckles here, but killing Wash too soon was a big damn mistake. I’m still mad at you. Sure, I watch your stuff just to fall in love with your characters and then let you rip my heart out, but we haven’t gotten enough dinosaur jokes and loud Hawaaian shirts yet. Try it again after giving me the Wash n’Zoe Hot!Married!Sex!!! on Vacation scene, preferably during Season 7 or so.

Check my tagline if you’re wondering why posting this seemed appropriate…


Betsy HP - Sep 13, 2005 7:55:46 am PDT #1220 of 1424
If I only had a brain...

Long charming spoiler-ful Joss interview in Australia:

[link]


Jon B. - Sep 13, 2005 9:12:01 am PDT #1221 of 1424
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

From Betsy's link -- Weirdest. Typo. Ever. (unless it's some alternate Australian spelling in which case -- Weirdest. Unamerican Spelling. Ever.)

He noted that Alan works the most and was the first to get work after the series ended. Joss at this point began to get nervous that the cast was moving on and that his movie wasn’t going to happen. At this stage he asked Tim Minear, "At what point does this stop being CPR and start being Negrophilia".


DavidS - Sep 13, 2005 9:22:58 am PDT #1222 of 1424
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

What? He likes black people.


Dana - Sep 13, 2005 9:28:43 am PDT #1223 of 1424
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

Unlike George Bush.


Kiba Rika - Sep 13, 2005 11:50:01 am PDT #1224 of 1424
I may have to seize the cat.

That is an amazing typo. Ohmygoodness.