I also think Jayne was tweaked just a little, to make him a little less -- "dumb" isn't the right word for how he was in the series
It's not an exact fit, but primal is what comes to my mind for Series!Jayne.
Tara: Do you have any books on robots? Giles: Oh, yes, dozens. There's a lot of research to be done in order to--no, I'm lying. Haven't got squat. I just like watching Xander squirm.
'Get It Done'
Firefly Spoilers
Discussion of all Firefly episodes, including "Trash", "The Message", "Heart of Gold", and any movie news.
Lee - Jun 24, 2005 9:12:26 am PDT #1083 of 1424
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.
Kiba Rika - Jun 24, 2005 9:15:27 am PDT #1084 of 1424
I may have to seize the cat.
I had wishes for differences in the language. I thought the word "conjure" was overused. I appreciate that the Westernisms were toned down, but it made the ones that were there seem more out of place to me.
I am one of these people who sounds like they hated something, when really they loved it. And I did love it.
Mr. Broom - Jun 24, 2005 9:17:45 am PDT #1085 of 1424
"When I look at people that I would like to feel have been a mentor or an inspiring kind of archetype of what I'd love to see my career eventually be mentioned as a footnote for in the same paragraph, it would be, like, Bowie." ~Trent Reznor
Frankly, and I know I'm going to cause debate, but I'm still sure I'm right, River could kick Buffy's ass. That fight scene more or less proves it, I think. As she's the only person who survives this film pretty much entirely unwounded, she qualifies as a Level Nine badass.
As for Mal being darker, particularly after Book dies, I should point up that this is expected for a Whedon hero, who always goes pretty dark in the time leading up to the battle s/he doesn't expect to survive. Examples include "The mission is what matters" Buffy in S7 and Angel being murderously ruthless in order to infiltrate the Black Thorn, end of S5. This isn't Mal being Movie!Mal instead of TV!Mal; Movie!Mal is TV!Mal when pushed beyond the limits he's prepared to live with.
tommyrot - Jun 24, 2005 9:24:32 am PDT #1086 of 1424
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
Frankly, and I know I'm going to cause debate, but I'm still sure I'm right, River could kick Buffy's ass.
But who would win in a fight between a Reaver and a vampire?
My money's on the Reaver, because at least they can master technology.
HiddenSky - Jun 24, 2005 9:33:16 am PDT #1087 of 1424
"There are two sorts of people in the world: those who believe Joss Whedon is a genius and those who are wrong." - Connie Ogle, Miami Herald
Frankly, and I know I'm going to cause debate, but I'm still sure I'm right, River could kick Buffy's ass.
I'd like to see Buffy, River, and Fray all in one room.
tommyrot - Jun 24, 2005 9:34:33 am PDT #1088 of 1424
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
I'd like to see Buffy, River, and Fray all in one room.
Now I'm picturing Buffy, River and Fray sitting down at a tea party....
DavidS - Jun 24, 2005 9:34:51 am PDT #1089 of 1424
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
I'd like to see Buffy, River, and Fray all in one room.
Is there Jello in this scenario?
HiddenSky - Jun 24, 2005 9:35:22 am PDT #1090 of 1424
"There are two sorts of people in the world: those who believe Joss Whedon is a genius and those who are wrong." - Connie Ogle, Miami Herald
Now I'm picturing Buffy, River and Fray sitting down at a tea party....
Of course, what else would they do? :)
Is there Jello in this scenario?
...or that works, too.
Mr. Broom - Jun 24, 2005 9:35:45 am PDT #1091 of 1424
"When I look at people that I would like to feel have been a mentor or an inspiring kind of archetype of what I'd love to see my career eventually be mentioned as a footnote for in the same paragraph, it would be, like, Bowie." ~Trent Reznor
River only loses if Buffy and Melaka gang up on her. Maybe. Really, you can't overestimate the usefulness of being psychic in combat. Long as you're the least bit athletic, you will not get hit.
That said, I'd like to see it too, but for much less wholesome reasons.
tommyrot - Jun 24, 2005 9:37:21 am PDT #1092 of 1424
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
Now I'm picturing River with a confused look on her face, analyzing Mr. Gordo.