The new hosts get the memory of the old hosts? Where did we see that?

In "Summit," Random Female Tok'ra tells Sam that part of Martouf lives on in Lantash. Therefore, presumably older hosts would do so as well.

The implication in Death Knell was that Tauri hosts weren't so used to subjugation, so perhaps harder to deal with.

Have I mentioned how much I love this, and think it is dead-on? Because I do. (Except that Martouf did all the talking for his pairing. Lantash probably got made fun of down at the Tok'ra Pub for being host-whipped.)

Which makes me wonder -- Jack got locked out of all memories from his worm, eh?

As far as we know. (Minus the few from the actual rescue attempt.) Of course, Jack could just be suppressing; Sam's Jolinar memories didn't show up for a while, and they had to go digging with the memory device to get them back really strongly.

Jack had a specific deal going in, though -- everyone knew that he wanted as little "blending" as possible, so it may be that it's controllable by the symbiote.

I thought with Trills once they were joined they had the memories of the past hosts but the host still retains their personality.

I'm not sure which episode it is or what season (I know I saw it on the marathon thing Spike TV ran) Slight spoiler:

but on DS9 Jadiza goes on trial for a murder that Kurzon committed.

Part of Sisco's argument is that while the host shares the memories of the the past hosts they keep their same personalities.

Plus the Trill symboite doesn't have really have their own personalities...at least I never remember seeing Dax communicating with anyone or speaking for itself.

I thought with Trills once they were joined they had the memories of the past hosts but the host still retains their personality.

Except, in Invasive Procedures, Verad and Verad Dax have completely different personalities -- it's the basis on which Sisco persuades Mareel to betray him so they can take Dax out and put him back into Jadzia. Of course, Verad had been turned down for joining, so he may just be a pantywaist. (Hey, Tim Russ was a Klingon in that ep!)

I think it's that the Trill pairing is an individual, in ways the To'kra isn't. The To'kra symbiote is a hitchhiker who occasionally gets the wheel.

And Jadzia still feels responsible for things that Kerzon Dax did (Blood Oath). Now the trial is putting me in mind of Pretense. And I get dizzier.

Random Female Tok'ra tells Sam that part of Martouf lives on in Lantash

I wonder if this is as comprehensive as it seems to be with the Trill -- Verad Dax seemed to be comfortable with Jadzia surviving in him. But then again, he's a Luthor. Also, if the symbiote gets to keep memories of the host from before the joining.

Hey, if you really want to complicate things, they did a bunch of retconning w/r/t Trills, which first appeared on NextGen. Crusher fell in love the guy, something happened with his host, and they put the symbiote in Riker.

ObStargate: Poor Martouf.

And the symboite in Riker acted almost the same as a G'ould.

Plus NextGen Trills didn't have spots, their noses had a different shape.

And I think that was the first time anyone in the Federation had seen a Trill...at least Crusher didn't know what the thing inside the guy was.

DS9 Trills were a major retcon.

And I think that was the first time anyone in the Federation had seen a Trill...at least Crusher didn't know what the thing inside the guy was.

Wait, so she had two Trill flings? Or is it little Crusher you're talking about.

Those spots were pretty hot. t /strange

Hey, cool. Window of Opportunity tonight. I'ma tape it. Heh, heh. So. Much. Fun.

I'm watching the Fri two-parter deal of DS9--it seems to be the fourth season opener--and Sisko is making moony eyes at Lady McPalmer! Dude.

This two different schedule thing is confusing, but I guess not half as confusing as it is for those who are watching SG for the first time. The only eps from S3 I've watched are the S3 openers (in which Odo finds out his people are the evil founders. Oh, the humanity!) and Past Tense two-parter, both of which kicked serious ass. What a good show. I even like the opening credit theme with the fanfare--very majestic.

Before this one, they re-aired Necessary Evils, which is one of the episodes I've liked the best thus far. I love the backstory episodes. Must be the influence of all the flashback episodes from the Jossverse shows.

I have no insight into the Trill vs. Tok'ra debate, except to reiterate that I wish to God *someone* would write a Jack/Jadzia fic as a part of the multiverse2004 challenge. t bats eyes at fic-writing Buffistas

Could you make it a fic in which Jack has already met (and disliked) Kurzon?