Uck. Woobification of Spike creeps me right the fuck out. I tend to think that no character on Buffy was really woobifiable, with my limited knowledge of the term.
Well some friends of Buffy played a funny joke and they took her stuff and now she wants us to help get it back from her friends who sleep all day and have no tans.
Xander ,'Lessons'
Boxed Set, Vol. 1: Smallville, Due South, Farscape
A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much anything else that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.
bon bon - Mar 18, 2004 5:44:42 pm PST #4542 of 10000
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.
Vonnie K - Mar 18, 2004 5:47:43 pm PST #4543 of 10000
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.
My god, if you woobify Spike, you lose the attractive bits.
Yeah, exactly. I've got my battle scars, because I used to love the character A LOT back in the day (well, I still like him OK, but the thrill is gone) and I belonged to a couple of big Spike-centric lists on which woobification ran so rampant, I had to leave for the sake of my blood pressure.
I've only watched a handful of SV episodes this year (I actually thought the one in which Lex was driven insane by his father was pretty good. I stuck around for a couple of eps when it came back from hiatus, hoping for the same, and... well, the show went to the crapper again so I stopped), but I think the character of Lex has a huge potential for turning into a Spike with its attendant negative woobification issues, because folks are not going to let go of their woobie when Lex starts turning evil in earnest. (Well, I guess there would be more room for justification given Lex's backstory, but still.)
§ ita § - Mar 18, 2004 5:54:43 pm PST #4544 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
folks are not going to let go of their woobie when Lex starts turning evil in earnest
I realise this ... which is why I never want him to turn evil.
Also because I think the only good work on the show is him (and Chloe, to a lesser extent) walking that fine line. Once he picks a side, I don't think he'll be as interesting. Oh, he'll still be MR, but not need so much comforting.
I'd kinda woobify Oz, but he doesn't need it. He's just so wee and so cute ...
Xander, maybe, S7. Maybe.
Elais - Mar 18, 2004 6:09:58 pm PST #4545 of 10000
making her home at bronzebeta.com since 2001
Yeah, exactly. I've got my battle scars, because I used to love the character A LOT back in the day (well, I still like him OK, but the thrill is gone) and I belonged to a couple of big Spike-centric lists on which woobification ran so rampant, I had to leave for the sake of my bloodpressure.
I still enjoy the character of Spike but now only woobify him when I re-watch certain scenes.
folks are not going to let go of their woobie when Lex starts turning evil in earnest
I think I can let go of the wooby if Lex starts turning actively evil. But I don't want Lex to really start becoming evil until it gets close to the end of the series.
Also because I think the only good work on the show is him (and Chloe, to a lesser extent) walking that fine line. Once he picks a side, I don't think he'll be as interesting. Oh, he'll still be MR, but not need so much comforting.
I agree.
One of the great things about Season one was the dynamic between Clark and Lex. The episodes I like most this season focused on their relationship.
§ ita § - Mar 18, 2004 6:24:46 pm PST #4546 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
The episodes I like most this season focused on their relationship.
And there've been precious few. MR makes everything better, but even he's challenged by KK.
Elais - Mar 18, 2004 6:43:32 pm PST #4547 of 10000
making her home at bronzebeta.com since 2001
KK is Preternaturally Powerful Pink Princess. I'm not who or what could defeat her. Maybe Lionel giving her shock treatments?
P.M. Marc - Mar 18, 2004 7:11:47 pm PST #4548 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
Yeah, exactly. I've got my battle scars, because I used to love the character A LOT back in the day (well, I still like him OK, but the thrill is gone) and I belonged to a couple of big Spike-centric lists on which woobification ran so rampant, I had to leave for the sake of my blood pressure.
Huh. You are as me.
(I actually thought the one in which Lex was driven insane by his father was pretty good. I stuck around for a couple of eps when it came back from hiatus, hoping for the same, and... well, the show went to the crapper again so I stopped),
Like, freaky so. Only woobie as a term cracks me up. I blame Te's "Joe Dick: Seekrit Woobie" icon for that.
§ ita § - Mar 18, 2004 7:14:35 pm PST #4549 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Morior. Gus gave me the word. I'm guessing that "Morior salutat" would be the description for the look that Jack gives over his shoulder when he's walking off to be dissected in "Divide & Conquer."
Shippy as it may sound, that episode is one of my favourites. RDA is so marvellous.
Katie M - Mar 18, 2004 7:23:41 pm PST #4550 of 10000
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies
Oh, I don't even like J/S and I like Divide and Conquer a lot. For the Big Ship Episode, it's really pretty darn teamy.
Writing up LC 2 now. ita's gonna love that scene. No, that one, there.
§ ita § - Mar 18, 2004 7:27:23 pm PST #4551 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
For the Big Ship Episode, it's really pretty darn teamy.
A little short on Teal'c, but Jack's very good, and we do have the death of Martouf.
STOP TAUNTING ME.
Sadly, I'm getting cable modem just as there's not so much I'll be torrenting.
Ah, well.