I think Crichton employing his insane-fu.

You don't think Granny either?

I'm just a little Farscape-bitter. I don't think I enjoyed more than one episode of the last season. Crichton and Scorpius continued to entertain, but I got no emotional urgency from anything else that happened. Mostly it irritated me -- where was the subversion and impact of the show I'd liked so much?

Which has nothing to do with whether or not Stargate is good, or successful. I like it because it presents 4 pretty and charismatic main character, memorable recurring characters, puts them in physical danger and through the odd emotional wringer. It's not redefining anything (except perhaps how many times we can watch our characters or something very like them die), but engaging.

Ending on skittles would be such a bad thing.

No fucking kidding. Though the schmoop was making me a little diabetic.

While Stark's insanity drives me bug-fuck, I dearly adore Crichton's insane-fu. I wonder why that is.

You don't think Granny either?

Not so much towards to end, when she seemed to get a competence upgrade.

Though the schmoop was making me a little diabetic.

Clearly this is why they turned into skittles - too much sugar.

While Stark's insanity drives me bug-fuck, I dearly adore Crichton's insane-fu. I wonder why that is.

Probably because a) crazy is not Crichton's default mode, and b) Browder does crazy really frelling well. He's up there with Bruce Campbell in the Evil Dead movies (there's always a point where Ash just LOSES it).

let's not forget (though I did) the 15 minute commercial for shoes, makeup, and hair products.

Ah, but that's an old and hallowed tradition! Besides, it comes in the package with getting contacts, as I understand it. "Value-added".

Stark is crazy for no apparent reason, and has no charisma to boot.

Crichton's oozing with the attractive stuff, plus we've seen every step that's made him hatter-mad.

Granny was just annoying to me, all the time.

I'm getting sucked into Stargate, even though it's not very good.

Ha! See? It's a sneaky show like that. You're sitting there, thinking "you know, this isn't really very good... hey, there's another episode on!"

I dunno. I think it's well done.

Well, no, that's not... hmm.

It's a good example of what it is. I'm not embarassed to point at it and say "fun show! Which I like!" But I'm never going to hold it up as art, like you said, which is what I mean when I say "good." You know? I mean, I appreciate that the actors mostly commit to it, and they obviously care about quality, but it's not brilliant.

...maybe I'm a little embarassed, because it's so straightforward, and I feel like I shouldn't like it as much as I do. I dunno. It's possible that I'm just warped by all those years spent with ME productions, where I expected Brilliance and Meaning (and thus was disappointed a decent chunk of the time).

It's absolutely not art.

It's hard, I guess, when you get into a show that's complex, and you see it redefining its field, and hitting exquisite notes, to make peace with other shows.

There are tons of not good shows out there. But Stargate, for me, doesn't even fall near guilty pleasure territory. It's solid. Which is cool. Would I rather watch ANY given 22 episodes of Stargate than the final season of Farscape? Absolutely. But if I could only have watched either Stargate or Farscape, it'd be Farscape.

I dunno. I'm trying to find a way to not make it sound like Mickey D's or failed filet mignon. I don't think I'm succeeding.

I dunno. I'm trying to find a way to not make it sound like Mickey D's or failed filet mignon. I don't think I'm succeeding.

Heh. A good hamburger, maybe?