I dunno. I think it's well done.
Funny thing about black and white. You mix it together and you get gray. And it doesn't matter how much white you try and put back in, you're never gonna get anything but gray.
Lilah ,'Destiny'
Boxed Set, Vol. 1: Smallville, Due South, Farscape
A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much anything else that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.
§ ita § - Mar 16, 2004 7:05:48 am PST #4321 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Katie M - Mar 16, 2004 7:20:13 am PST #4322 of 10000
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies
Well, no, that's not... hmm.
It's a good example of what it is. I'm not embarassed to point at it and say "fun show! Which I like!" But I'm never going to hold it up as art, like you said, which is what I mean when I say "good." You know? I mean, I appreciate that the actors mostly commit to it, and they obviously care about quality, but it's not brilliant.
...maybe I'm a little embarassed, because it's so straightforward, and I feel like I shouldn't like it as much as I do. I dunno. It's possible that I'm just warped by all those years spent with ME productions, where I expected Brilliance and Meaning (and thus was disappointed a decent chunk of the time).
§ ita § - Mar 16, 2004 7:27:02 am PST #4323 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
It's absolutely not art.
It's hard, I guess, when you get into a show that's complex, and you see it redefining its field, and hitting exquisite notes, to make peace with other shows.
There are tons of not good shows out there. But Stargate, for me, doesn't even fall near guilty pleasure territory. It's solid. Which is cool. Would I rather watch ANY given 22 episodes of Stargate than the final season of Farscape? Absolutely. But if I could only have watched either Stargate or Farscape, it'd be Farscape.
I dunno. I'm trying to find a way to not make it sound like Mickey D's or failed filet mignon. I don't think I'm succeeding.
Katie M - Mar 16, 2004 7:29:51 am PST #4324 of 10000
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies
I dunno. I'm trying to find a way to not make it sound like Mickey D's or failed filet mignon. I don't think I'm succeeding.
Heh. A good hamburger, maybe?
§ ita § - Mar 16, 2004 7:30:40 am PST #4325 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
A good hamburger, maybe?
With bacon?
I can work with that.
Maybe some seasoned fries, and lemonade.
Katie M - Mar 16, 2004 7:50:53 am PST #4326 of 10000
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies
Ew. No bacon, and no funny spices on the fries. But I'm with you on the lemonade.
You can have bacon, of course, she said generously.
Emily - Mar 16, 2004 8:23:07 am PST #4327 of 10000
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola
Can I have your bacon, Katie M? And I'll have a lemonade, thanks.
I don't think Stargate redefines the genre or anything, but I love it just the same. And I do think it brings up interesting issues, even if it can't address them head-on all the time.
Katie M - Mar 16, 2004 8:30:52 am PST #4328 of 10000
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies
You can have my bacon, absolutely. Also my pickle, if you want it.
§ ita § - Mar 16, 2004 8:32:19 am PST #4329 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
THERE WILL BE NO PICKLES.
Codename: Eternity is a pickle show.
Emily - Mar 16, 2004 8:47:50 am PST #4330 of 10000
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola
No pickles? Hamburger, fries, lemonade, and no pickles? What kind of sick freak are you?
There are pickles. The issue of the Jaffa is the pickle of Stargate. It's off to the side -- necessary, but separate and complete in its own right.
Plus, you can always give it to me. I'm losing control of the metaphor.