I have to believe that it does genuinely bother them.

A good and wise perspective - benefit of the doubt is certainly a good thing. However, tolerance is another. And I lean toward the latter.

Hmm - how to 'splain better? Well, when I was a DJ, I would play nearly any request if I could, but when people came up and said "Please don't play" a certain annoying/overpopular song, I'd ignore them and play the damn song - even if I didn't like it - as long as I knew that the song was going to make a lot of people on the dance floor happy. In my mind, the negative-request folks were just being selfish, having no good reason to not want to hear a song other than they didn't like it.

My question was always - what makes them so special as to warrant denying fun to others?

That's how I see this situation.

Rafmun, I'm reposting your bit from Press here, since discussion doesn't go in there:

Thanks ita - my bad. Still learning the ropes (next class: The personal noose) ;)

I always look at it more as 'is it fun, does it hurt anyone' - and if it's fun for some without hurting anyone, then it's okay. That's why I've always been so spoiler leery.

Reminds me of that great KITH skit "I suggest that we replace all wheelchair ramps with large bumps. It's not that I'm anti-handicapped, it's just that I'm tired of waiting in line on a slant.".

'is it fun, does it hurt anyone'

Agreed! And exactly my convoluted DJ point. =)

Your DJ point was excellent.

All settled in yet? Can you walk through the basement?

Where do we post our annoyance if we find posts about being annoyed by posts annoying?

...I'm just asking. ;)

And no, not all settled in, but settled in enough to walk the basement -though one access point to the kitchen is box-banked for a while. We've got TV, internet, fridge, phone, stove, bed and washroom facilities. We never really have to do anything else. Other than time spent sleeping, I've spent maybe an hour out of the basement since we moved in. The basement is arranged just like the living room in our old apartment. 2+2=me

Megan said something earlier about your fireplace, what's up with that?

Fireplace - when B was over last evening, and before we all watched A Mighty Wind, we screwed in the bulb, clicked on the fireplace, listened to the crinkle, and basked in the room temperature of the fire. It was glorious.

Aw, that's so cool!

I don't remember the last time we had a fire... Because the wood is in the back of the garage and not accessible right now.

Our fireplace must be incredibly efficient as it requires almost no wood at all.