Zach is like old school Riley, while he was still geeky and stuff.
It's possible that he's in the land of perpetual Wednesday, or the crazy melty land, or you know, the world without shrimp.
Anya ,'Showtime'
Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.
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§ ita § - Nov 22, 2004 5:18:52 am PST #9452 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
sumi - Nov 22, 2004 5:36:07 am PST #9453 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!
When there was still some hope for Riley.
Frankenbuddha - Nov 22, 2004 5:49:58 am PST #9454 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
I realize in retrospect, that it wasn't Riley going dark and getting suckjobs, being a whiny git, and blaming it all on Buffy that got my back up about season 5 Riley - it was that somehow Buffy seemed to agree with the blame, and I could never parse if the writers believed that as well, or they just thought that's what Buffy thought.
If, in INTO THE WOODS, she'd just told Riley to piss off, or if they had made it clear that she chased after him because she wanted a little closure ala Angel in THE YOKO FACTOR (i.e., it's over but I don't want to leave it like this), I'd have been OK with a lot of what they did with Riley.
Granted, I still would have preferred him staying geeky grad student, even with initiative upgrade, to him being a whingey ass. But I could have handled whingey ass if I didn't keep getting the idea he was somehow supposed to be justified in his behavior.
Fred Pete - Nov 22, 2004 5:51:22 am PST #9455 of 10001
Ann, that's a ferret.
Granted, I still would have preferred him staying geeky grad student, even with initiative upgrade
Yes, not least because the geeky grad student had a certain charm.
Frankenbuddha - Nov 22, 2004 5:54:35 am PST #9456 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
Yes, not least because the geeky grad student had a certain charm.
They still had a few flashes of this in season 5, all though mainly the "do experiments on them" line in THE REPLACEMENT.
Which also, coincidentally or not, had the "she doesn't love me" and "they're not recycling" lines as well. Riley's last hurrah.
Also unreasonably fond of "No sir, no more chick pit for you."
Jim - Nov 22, 2004 5:59:20 am PST #9457 of 10001
Ficht nicht mit Der Raketemensch!
Also "Cow Me" and "You throw like a girl". Great days.
ChiKat - Nov 22, 2004 6:08:15 am PST #9458 of 10001
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?
I've been watching S5, too, and am finding it better on rewatch in some ways. The thing that struck me was just how angry Buffy is for a good part of S5. And, I'm talking about pre-The Body, and even pre-Riley leaving. She's just so angry and bitter. I think that's where my dislike for the season has remained. Glory/Ben don't even bug as much as they did the first time. Well, Glory still bugs some, but not as bad.
Lilty Cash - Nov 22, 2004 6:29:35 am PST #9459 of 10001
"You see? THAT's what they want. Love, and a bit with a dog."
t Stupid Question
Was there a reason the Potentials didn't just wait out in the hall while Willow worked the spell, then went down to the basement?
t /Stupid Question.
Polter-Cow - Nov 22, 2004 6:33:49 am PST #9460 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
Was there a reason the Potentials didn't just wait out in the hall while Willow worked the spell, then went down to the basement?
You mean in "Chosen"? Well, I guess they wanted to give Buffy backup...or, uh, I guess they could have waited for everyone to get their superslayer powers before going down in the first place.
Um...something about it being more dramatic.
Lilty Cash - Nov 22, 2004 6:42:19 am PST #9461 of 10001
"You see? THAT's what they want. Love, and a bit with a dog."
Yeah, I know. Made it cool. Damn me for picking too hard! It's just my nature.
I can't really be crying through Chosen again can I?