We're not called the Lostistas, after all.
Yet.
Mal: Go on. Get in there. Give your brother a thrashing for messing up your plan. River: He takes so much looking after.
'Objects In Space'
Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.
This is where we talk about Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No spoilers though?if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it. This thread is NO LONGER NAFDA. Please don't discuss current Angel events here.
§ ita § - Nov 21, 2004 7:27:49 pm PST #9445 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
victor infante - Nov 21, 2004 8:01:05 pm PST #9446 of 10001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.
No reason we wouldn't start a new one. There's always been strong sentiment to keep a Buffy thread open. We're not called the Lostistas, after all.
There will always be Buffy and Angel threads on this board. It IS our raison d'etre after all.
Besides, I just finished rewatching Buffy Season Five, and man did I enjoy it. A lot of my issues really floated away, and watched in rapid succession, it hung together well.
Polter-Cow - Nov 21, 2004 8:04:21 pm PST #9447 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
Besides, I just finished rewatching Buffy Season Five, and man did I enjoy it. A lot of my issues really floated away, and watche din rapid succession, it hung together well.
I like S5 for the most part, but as I rewatched it, I realized how much I'd forgotten about it, even though it was only a few years ago. The episode titles didn't ring any bells, and it was so hard to remember when Glory appeared and when she started doing things. In contrast to the earlier seasons, which, on the rewatch, I realized I remembered a ton from, even from only ever seeing them once, longer before.
victor infante - Nov 21, 2004 8:15:08 pm PST #9448 of 10001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.
Yeah, I had that happen to. Which, on a certain level, was nice. It meant a lot of it was a surprise.
I'd totally forgotten how much "business" Buffy had in her scene in "The Body," when she was alone with Joyce's corpse. Especially between when the paramedics left and Giles appeared. Gah. Heartbreaking.
Frankenbuddha - Nov 22, 2004 2:55:32 am PST #9449 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
Besides, I just finished rewatching Buffy Season Five, and man did I enjoy it. A lot of my issues really floated away, and watched in rapid succession, it hung together well.
If you get a chance, victor, I'd love to hear how you thought it played out better. I always suspected it might if watched in rapid succession - I thank half the mid-season slump/pacing issues were as much as a result of waiting between episodes (especially when there were hiatuses) as anything in the episodes themselves.
I'm also curious if you found Spiral redeemed on re-watch.
Topic!Cindy - Nov 22, 2004 3:00:24 am PST #9450 of 10001
What is even happening?
If you get a chance, victor, I'd love to hear how you thought it played out better. I always suspected it might if watched in rapid succession - I thank half the mid-season slump/pacing issues were as much as a result of waiting between episodes (especially when there were hiatuses) as anything in the episodes themselves.I always figured that was part of our dissatisfaction in later years--the long breaks between new episodes. And I found my f2f people (not a good sample, just a handful) who weren't part of online fandom were more satisfied with the show. I've always figured that might be due to not having the time to pick it apart, in between. I know we've had conversations before in the Buffy thread, about how when you're reading an overall good book, and you hit a less satisfying section, it's not like you have to stay there for weeks. You read through it, and get back to the story that is, overall, pretty good.
Jim - Nov 22, 2004 4:52:13 am PST #9451 of 10001
Ficht nicht mit Der Raketemensch!
S5 works waaay better on the rewatch. Especially cos Riley (wh, incidentally, does Zach on the OC remind me of Riley? Hmm) is gone very early on.
§ ita § - Nov 22, 2004 5:18:52 am PST #9452 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Zach is like old school Riley, while he was still geeky and stuff.
sumi - Nov 22, 2004 5:36:07 am PST #9453 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!
When there was still some hope for Riley.
Frankenbuddha - Nov 22, 2004 5:49:58 am PST #9454 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
I realize in retrospect, that it wasn't Riley going dark and getting suckjobs, being a whiny git, and blaming it all on Buffy that got my back up about season 5 Riley - it was that somehow Buffy seemed to agree with the blame, and I could never parse if the writers believed that as well, or they just thought that's what Buffy thought.
If, in INTO THE WOODS, she'd just told Riley to piss off, or if they had made it clear that she chased after him because she wanted a little closure ala Angel in THE YOKO FACTOR (i.e., it's over but I don't want to leave it like this), I'd have been OK with a lot of what they did with Riley.
Granted, I still would have preferred him staying geeky grad student, even with initiative upgrade, to him being a whingey ass. But I could have handled whingey ass if I didn't keep getting the idea he was somehow supposed to be justified in his behavior.