Buffistas

I just think you're freakin' out 'cause you have to fight someone prettier than you.

Dawn ,'The Killer In Me'

Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.

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Lyra Jane - Oct 12, 2004 1:48:17 pm PDT #9230 of 10001

Up with the sun

I think they loved each other a long time. And that doesn't tweak me. How crappily it was written does.

That's about where I end up. I think the attraction between them was clear pretty early, and I liked that it was based on intelligence and respect rather than OMG (S)HE IS SO VERY SMOLDERING!!!!!!

Because I think it's lazy, lazy, lazy and overused, a way to get nookie tension without paying more actors.

I agree with you on that. I can see where the concept is infuriating, but it's never bugged me in any specific instance.

It didn't ping me with the same undercurrent of being a bad person for not giving someone a chance.

I didn't really get that Buffy was supposed to be a Bad Person for not wanting Xander, and I felt like his crush was pretty much dealt with for both of them by S4. I like B/X myself, but that's in part because it would have at least given him something to DO. I'd be equally in favor of Xander as watcher, or Xander as Ben, or Xander as Riley, or all four at once.

§ ita § - Oct 12, 2004 2:04:22 pm PDT #9231 of 10001

Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

See, love isn't brains, children, it's blood, blood screaming inside you to work its will.

DavidS - Oct 12, 2004 2:07:13 pm PDT #9232 of 10001

"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

See, love isn't brains, children, it's blood, blood screaming inside you to work its will.

Oh, you're going to take Spike's word on it, Ms. Never Been In Love?

§ ita § - Oct 12, 2004 2:10:19 pm PDT #9233 of 10001

Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Look, I got no beef with never having been in love (I told him that I loved him.. and I kissed him.. and I killed him.) Let's get real.

Those who can, do -- those who can't? Diagnose.

DavidS - Oct 12, 2004 2:12:47 pm PDT #9234 of 10001

"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I'm just sayin' Spike didn't know a lot about the kind of love Zoe and Wash had. Which definitely had some blood, but had some other stuff too.

§ ita § - Oct 12, 2004 2:14:30 pm PDT #9235 of 10001

Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm just sayin' Spike didn't know a lot about the kind of love Zoe and Wash had.

Not a bone of contention.

But so what, though?

DavidS - Oct 12, 2004 2:18:40 pm PDT #9236 of 10001

"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

But so what, though?

Well, not much really. It's just that Spike's statement is categorical, and I thought (in that regard) that it was lacking.

I'm sure a Zombie!Spike would give the same speech, except insist that "Love is Brainnnnnnssss, children..."

§ ita § - Oct 12, 2004 2:20:05 pm PDT #9237 of 10001

Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Let me go ring Spike up and you can have an argument with him.

Topic!Cindy - Oct 12, 2004 2:22:09 pm PDT #9238 of 10001

What is even happening?

I am missing something I think, ita. I read your citation of Spike's definition as if you agree with it.

I think blood is part of it, but not the only part, and probably not the biggest part of it, just the most immediate one.

§ ita § - Oct 12, 2004 2:24:31 pm PDT #9239 of 10001

Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

It was a hyperbolic but relevant cut and paste from the quote in the top right corner to underscore the "you can't force it, you can't think it, you feel it" POV which I do stand by.

You want anything more on those precise words, you gotta take it up with him.

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