Okay, who is opening up their PayPal account for our collection to fund Frank to completely re-do season 5? Most of the cast must be available.
Angel: Lorne, you're— Lorne: Reliable as a cheap fortune cookie? Angel: I was gonna say a guy with good contacts…
'Shells'
Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.
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Topic!Cindy - Oct 06, 2004 6:58:18 am PDT #9114 of 10001
What is even happening?
brenda m - Oct 06, 2004 6:58:34 am PDT #9115 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there
Oooh, nice. That would've been excellent.
Topic!Cindy - Oct 06, 2004 6:59:49 am PDT #9116 of 10001
What is even happening?
tricksey "F" named Buffistae
victor infante - Oct 06, 2004 7:02:21 am PDT #9117 of 10001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.
Victor, I am so sorry about your ferret. Spleen? A friend of mine in Oregon rescues ferrets. She has a fluctuating number of them. She is always looking for -good- homes for her babies. She knows people all over the USA.
Thanks. I'm not sure you're if you're asking if I want to take in another here, but the answer is, "not right away." We're a little tuckered out, nd just want to spend time seeing to Ludo (the youngest).
- ******
Watched a good chunk of Season 4 last night. Pretty much everything from Something Blue" to "Who Are You?" I'd completely forgotten how good the Faith story was.
Polter-Cow - Oct 06, 2004 7:03:35 am PDT #9118 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
I'd completely forgotten how good the Faith story was.
Doesn't "This Year's Girl" kick ass? GLASS DOOR.
Frankenbuddha - Oct 06, 2004 7:03:43 am PDT #9119 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
Suppressed due to the serum, according to this framing.
That, or the chip that comes out in Primeval (in some ways, that's better - since it's a "control" chip with demonic origins), or as a result of whatever the remnants of the Initiative had to do to Riley in season 5 (Out of My Mind, wasn't it?).
I like it being the chip, because then Glory can first emerge when Riley's gone off to D.C. at the beginning of Restless. Then whatever the soldiers do to permanently fix Riley allows Glory to unleash herself even more often.
Frankenbuddha - Oct 06, 2004 7:07:11 am PDT #9120 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
Okay, who is opening up their PayPal account for our collection to fund Frank to completely re-do season 5? Most of the cast must be available.
For my next trick, I will reduce the amount of Buffy/Angel schmoop-angst in season 3 by turning THE WISH into a four episode mini-arc that you're not sure the show is ever going to come back from...
JohnSweden - Oct 06, 2004 8:42:11 am PDT #9121 of 10001
I can't even.
For my next trick, I will reduce the amount of Buffy/Angel schmoop-angst in season 3 by turning THE WISH into a four episode mini-arc that you're not sure the show is ever going to come back from...
Hmm, could be cool. I think your Riley is Ben plot switch is excellent, and I love The Wish with a deep and abiding passion, so you may be on to something. However, I'm not sure Season 3 needs much tinkering. It is about as good as it gets, in my view. S 5/6, way way not so much.
Matt the Bruins fan - Oct 06, 2004 9:15:18 am PDT #9122 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
In agreement here. The melodramatic schmoop was the one thing I didn't like about Season 3, but I'm not confident in anyone's ability to remove it and come up with something better than what Joss aired.
All Nonian is saying is that Buffy's one true love is Buffy.
Or that Buffy's going to live forever. Which, with two returns from being Mostly Dead and one from being REALLY, REALLY Dead, is perhaps not that ridiculous an idea.
Frankenbuddha - Oct 06, 2004 9:18:26 am PDT #9123 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
However, I'm not sure Season 3 needs much tinkering.
No, that's probably true - even stand-alone/MOTW episodes beat season 2, which had close to as good an arc (IMO). But I thought it would be cool if they did enough in the WISH-verse to think that the show might be doing a complete reset.
The general pacing outline for the arc would be:
1st episode ends with Cordelia finding out that Xander and Willow are vamps
2nd episode ends with Cordelia getting killed by Xander and Willow
3rd episode ends with Buffy arriving in Sunnydale
4th episode ends the arc as in THE WISH.
The big questions are (a) could it have sustained a four episode expansion, (b) would people have been pissed about a de-reset at the end of the 4th episode the way they wouldn't at the end of a single episode, and (c) which three episodes would get yanked to make it all fit.
I think they could have pulled off (a) by bringing back a few more characters, like Darla and Jesse who go unmentioned but could easily still be around. Maybe even Spike but they'd need to figure out why Dru isn't with him (maybe Angel took her out before he got all puppy-fied).
(b) is a toughie because there's no way to please everyone. Maybe making it a two-episode arc (reset my above eps with 1st & 3rd coming at the half-hour marks), which would also take care of (c) as I think we could easily lose one episode from the season. However, I don't think two episodes would be enough to convince people that we might never be going back.