Yeah, but you're an amateur fry cook and I come from a long line of fry cooks that don't live past 25.

Buffy ,'Showtime'


Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.  

This is where we talk about Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No spoilers though?if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it. This thread is NO LONGER NAFDA. Please don't discuss current Angel events here.


JohnSweden - Oct 05, 2004 11:08:35 am PDT #9091 of 10001
I can't even.

Come to think of it. Riley stays (preferably in goofball grad student mode), Dawn dies at the end of S5, angst over sacrificing Dawn to begin S6. There are worse scenarios.

Like the one that aired. I would have been much happier with your proposed version, Fred Pete. Let's put up a website and take donations to lobby FOX to edit the dvds!


Stephanie - Oct 05, 2004 12:57:46 pm PDT #9092 of 10001
Trust my rage

it's an interesting parallel to "I Will Remember You" All Buffy wanted was a normal boyfriend

What I think is so interesting about IWRY is that Buffy was very close to having a normal boyfriend with Riley, but she was willing to forget about him to be a normal girlfriend with Angel. Not that I blame her, but that always made me question the depth of her feelings for Riley.

I think he was ridiculous when it came to his expectations about Buffy where Joyce's illness (and Buffy's feelings about it) were concerned.

I agree with this but I also think that, objectively, her reaction told him something about how Buffy felt about him. I think he should have let her react how she wanted, but when the woman you love isn't leaning on you, that says something about your relationship.


Topic!Cindy - Oct 05, 2004 1:01:02 pm PDT #9093 of 10001
What is even happening?

Even when the woman is a superhero, and not one to lean?


§ ita § - Oct 05, 2004 1:02:02 pm PDT #9094 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

It's not like he started dating a leaner, or a woman that promised to lean and reneged.

Some women don't lean, and still get loved.

Ask Wash.


Stephanie - Oct 05, 2004 1:02:31 pm PDT #9095 of 10001
Trust my rage

Even when the woman is a superhero, and not one to lean?

I guess that's part of loving a slayer, but she was a leaner - she leaned on Angel, and she leaned on her friends. That's part of why she was different from all the other slayers.

re: Zoe. I see Buffy as more of a leaner than Zoe.

ETA: Clarity


brenda m - Oct 05, 2004 1:03:51 pm PDT #9096 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Buffy had walls, definitely. But I do think the Slayer Problem was something that Riley mostly created in his own mind, and that then became the situation they had to deal with. Life being life, Buffy had more urgent things on her plate just then and didn't have the [time/emotional energy/insight] to make that a priority.


Vortex - Oct 05, 2004 2:12:36 pm PDT #9097 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Not that I blame her, but that always made me question the depth of her feelings for Riley.

well, there are people you love, and there is your soulmate. It's a different level of commitment. Buffy always had a hard time leaning, strong women often do.


Allyson - Oct 05, 2004 2:23:01 pm PDT #9098 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Are you people still talking about Buffy?

God.

That was so two years ago.


Narrator - Oct 05, 2004 2:32:24 pm PDT #9099 of 10001
The evil is this way?

Hey, I just learned that Angel was a vampire!!!!


Polter-Cow - Oct 05, 2004 2:34:19 pm PDT #9100 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Aahccck! Whitefont spoilers, PLEASE!