I like pancakes 'cause they're stackable. Ooo, and waffles 'cause you can put things in the little holes if you wanted to.

Buffy ,'Potential'


Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.  

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Polter-Cow - Sep 02, 2004 9:35:15 am PDT #8919 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Maybe it's 'g' for 'god' and 'e' for 'eww.'


Gandalfe - Sep 02, 2004 9:36:25 am PDT #8920 of 10001
The generation that could change the world is still looking for its car keys.

And Fred, rather than Wesley or Gunn or Knox, had to be Illyria's victim so that Illyria could be the hot exotic goddess that she is. Girl gods are prettier. This makes perfect sense in my mind.

Although it would have been really, really cool, in an alta-verse way, to have Illyria infect Wesley.


Gandalfe - Sep 02, 2004 9:40:07 am PDT #8921 of 10001
The generation that could change the world is still looking for its car keys.

Interesting stat from that spreadsheet: There were 27 evil males between the 2 shows. Of those, 24 died, and 1 we're unsure of.


Lyra Jane - Sep 02, 2004 10:19:38 am PDT #8922 of 10001
Up with the sun

do we have to skew the fact that it's KNOWN that they wanted to kill Oz eventually and also that it's KNOWN that, barring that, Joss sure wanted to bring Tara back and Amber said "no"?

In a word: No. Saying "this is how it would have played out" doesn't affect what was shown onscreen one iota. Also, I thought he wanted to bring Tara's ghost back as the First, not actually resurrect the character. Even if she had appeared as a ghost, I wouldn't count that as a resurrection.


Matt the Bruins fan - Sep 02, 2004 10:33:37 am PDT #8923 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

There have been authoritative-sounding rumors (unconfirmed by Joss, so far as I know) that Tara would have been physically resurrected by the end of Season 7 had Amber signed on for that storyline.

And Fred, rather than Wesley or Gunn or Knox, had to be Illyria's victim so that Illyria could be the hot exotic goddess that she is. Girl gods are prettier. This makes perfect sense in my mind.

Although I quite liked "Time Bomb," I sorta wish I'd had the chance to see what some of the early spoilers made of the episode's plot: Angel and Illyria bouncing from one alternate timeline to another, and seeing the results of differences in the way events played out. My impression was that there might have been several different Illyria hosts seen, depending on who happened to lean over its sarcophagus in each timeline.


Gris - Sep 02, 2004 10:33:56 am PDT #8924 of 10001
Hey. New board.

I read somewhere, in some interview, something to the effect of "I had this plan to bring Tara back and I pitched it to Amber and was very excited about it and it was going to be beautiful and heartwarming and she basically just said "No, Joss." So then I did this thing with Kennedy turning into Warren instead."

But, I don't remember when he said that.


Lyra Jane - Sep 02, 2004 10:36:52 am PDT #8925 of 10001
Up with the sun

"I had this plan to bring Tara back and I pitched it to Amber and was very excited about it and it was going to be beautiful and heartwarming and she basically just said "No, Joss." So then I did this thing with Kennedy turning into Warren instead."

I am actually really glad she said no, if that's true. Not that I adore Kennedy, but it would have made the whole Dark!Willow storyline meaningless if Tara came back in the end. And that storyline was one of the best things about S6.

I treasure the occasions when dead means dead.


Gris - Sep 02, 2004 10:38:12 am PDT #8926 of 10001
Hey. New board.

I am actually really glad she said no, if that's true.

On this topic, Lyra Jane is me.


Strega - Sep 02, 2004 10:51:26 am PDT #8927 of 10001

but you've got Glory down as 'g'

D'oh. I noticed that earlier, but I thought I fixed it before I put it up. Yeah, Glory should have an E. But Ben should, too. Glory talks him into trading Dawn's life for his own in Weight of the World. He's probably more utterly selfish than evil, but I'd never call him a good guy.


Jim - Sep 02, 2004 11:53:33 am PDT #8928 of 10001
Ficht nicht mit Der Raketemensch!

It's true. Joss specifically mentions it in the Chosen commentary - he says after that he decided to go for the anti-Tara; as in Kennedy. which would have been fine had he been around to stop her being an annoying posh remake of S3 Faith without the grit or the sex.