Angel: Will you just shut up for once?! Illyria: What? Angel: My God, the speechifying. Has it ever occurred to you that now might not be the best time for when-we-were-muck stories?

'Time Bomb'


Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.  

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DavidS - Jul 11, 2004 9:16:08 am PDT #8630 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I do remember reading around the time the episode came out that Joss re-wrote the scene, but I can't remember if the actually filmed the original scene and re-shot Joss' scene, or if the re-write came earlier.

I think the original scene was shot, Joss didn't like it. Wrote a new one and they reshot. The original scene had Spike and Buffy snarky and antagonistic towards each other. I could be wrong about the reshoot - Joss might've just disliked it in the script phase - which kind of seems more likely to me, since he does see each script before shooting.


Topic!Cindy - Jul 11, 2004 11:35:05 am PDT #8631 of 10001
What is even happening?

I don't know if that scene was reshot, or not. I know the end of S7's Beneath You (a Petrie script) was rewritten by Joss and reshot. In that case, I also remember that everyone hated the blue sweater on James, so we had to suffer through him shirtless. Skin smoldering as he leaned against the cross...
*cough*
Where was I?


Stephanie - Jul 11, 2004 11:38:06 am PDT #8632 of 10001
Trust my rage

Joss wrote the cross scene too? I think I knew that but had forgotten.


erikaj - Jul 11, 2004 12:07:41 pm PDT #8633 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!

Yes, I know, that was so awful...I think of it often. The trauma. Poor ugly bastard.


Topic!Cindy - Jul 15, 2004 4:17:15 am PDT #8634 of 10001
What is even happening?

We watched Bargaining, last night. I fell asleep sometime after Buffy clawed her way out of her own grave, but before the Scoobies saw her (but I know how that story ends, so it isn't important).

I hate the biker demon villain-device more, each time I watch this. They feel so out of place in that 'verse. I reminded myself repeatedly, that it is a season of unusual villains: the nerds, and Willow. It didn't help much. I tried imagining the same overall story, with biker vampires. I liked that better. I don't know if it would have flown on screen, but it worked in my head.

Still, there's a lot of good here. There was playfulness among the surviving Scoobies, during the breakfast/unstart making sandwiches/don't answer the phone, Buffy-bot!/I am a man and I have a tool scene. I always find Anya and Giles' slap-fight over the Ramadan effigy a little over the top, but still enjoy it.

I panic with Buffy, when she first comes back to life in her casket. I feel for the poor, broken Buffy-bot. I feel for Spike. They did a masterful job of showing how even though the -bot was necessary for their temporary survival, she was so painful to be around. We have Spike, most obviously. We have Willow's pain, when she's trying to make the -bot not feel bad about Spike not looking at the -bot. We have poor Dawn coming to the -bots room, and curling up with her for artificial comfort. We have Giles trying to teach her about Chi.

SMG so becomes the -bot that the -bot really is a totally different character. When I'm in the story, I forget this is the same actress. It's just the Buffy -bot. I'm trying to ready myself to watch the whole season in order. We've had the DVDs forever, and I just can't do it. Last night, watching Tara and Willow, so happy, and obviously in love--it just hurts. And now, with foreknowledge? When Willow kills the fawn, to obtain the vino de madre, Tara's death seems such an inescapable consequence.

Watching Giles' plane take off, I recalled how that image hit me, when the season was new. It was right after 9/11 (maybe a month) and just seeing a plane was painful. I remember gasping lo those almost three years ago. Seeing the Tower crumble at the end, didn't affect me as much as seeing the plane.


Stephanie - Jul 15, 2004 4:30:18 am PDT #8635 of 10001
Trust my rage

When Willow kills the fawn, to obtain the vino de madre, Tara's death seems such an inescapable consequence.

Willow should not wear white. It's never a good day for her.

I just finished watching the S6 DVDs last week. I liked it the first time around, but I was surprised at how much more I liked it. I don't describe as well as Cindy, so I'll just stand in the corner with her.


AllAroundPsycho - Jul 15, 2004 11:11:52 am PDT #8636 of 10001
If wishes were horses we'd all be eating steak.

I liked it the first time around, but I was surprised at how much more I liked it. I don't describe as well as Cindy, so I'll just stand in the corner with her.
I'm with you - I'm half-way through the S6 DVDs and I'm really enjoying these episodes on a second viewing. So, please make room for me in the "corner".


sumi - Jul 16, 2004 9:56:59 am PDT #8637 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

I just read via lj that Andy Hallett is not going to be at the Oakland event as he is still recuperating and is too weak to travel. I honestly don't know what the "Oakland event" is -- is that Comic Con?


Sean K - Jul 16, 2004 9:58:22 am PDT #8638 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

I honestly don't know what the "Oakland event" is -- is that Comic Con?

Must be a con in Oakland. ComiCon is always in San Diego.


sumi - Jul 16, 2004 10:06:46 am PDT #8639 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

Well, the important part is that he is still so weak that he cannot travel. I hope that his recovery starts speeding up. (It's been about a month 1/2 since he was hospitalized.)