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'Beneath You'


Buffy 4: Grr. Arrgh.  

This is where we talk about Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No spoilers though?if you post one by accident, an admin will delete it. This thread is NO LONGER NAFDA. Please don't discuss current Angel events here.


Topic!Cindy - Jun 30, 2004 3:30:38 pm PDT #8569 of 10001
What is even happening?

I think the S5 version of the Riley character (and/or Blucas' portrayal thereof, I never know where to draw the line) got more interesting once Riley turned into a cranky-whiny pants who went to the crack ho for suck jobs. He just got way harder for me to like or enjoy watching, despite the very pretty pretty. I really liked Riley in season 4. He was no Angel, but he didn't grate 'til season 5. Then he whined. Then he left.

Bye bye Riley.


Scrappy - Jun 30, 2004 3:45:58 pm PDT #8570 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Matt- I think the issue was the amount of time it took to get him to that place--time they didn't have. For TV, characters tend to be written to the most easily accessible areas of the actor's range. The may not be LIKE the character, but all actors have certain areas they are more facile with. It's about which areas they can reach easily with no prep. Some, like ASH or SMG or AH, have a huge range they can bring to the demands of TV work. It happens with stage actors--some can go right to rage or sadness or whatever in an instant, but they have long rehearsal time to add other layers which might be more less available for them. TV actors don't have that.


DavidS - Jun 30, 2004 4:46:32 pm PDT #8571 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

The may not be LIKE the character, but all actors have certain areas they are more facile with. It's about which areas they can reach easily with no prep. Some, like ASH or SMG or AH, have a huge range they can bring to the demands of TV work.

This was evident in the outtakes. Robia La Morte was able to nail one take out of 7. I mean the others were competent but she couldn't hit that exact note every time out. This was in stark contrast to SMG or Aly who could not only bring every necessary emotion to the scene, but give each take different shadings so there were choices the editor could make later.


Topic!Cindy - Jun 30, 2004 11:36:55 pm PDT #8572 of 10001
What is even happening?

Hec, did you ever send that tape? I'm not fussing at you, because I know you've been busy with much more wonderful things. But if you did send it, I wanted you to know I'm not an ungrateful wretch. It just never got here.


DavidS - Jul 01, 2004 7:58:13 am PDT #8573 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Hec, did you ever send that tape? I'm not fussing at you, because I know you've been busy with much more wonderful things. But if you did send it, I wanted you to know I'm not an ungrateful wretch. It just never got here.

Nope, but you have effectively bumped it up on my list of things to mail this weekend. Why don't you shoot me your mailing address to my profile addy just to be sure.


Allyson - Jul 02, 2004 8:08:43 am PDT #8574 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Aren't we interesting?


Polter-Cow - Jul 02, 2004 8:14:46 am PDT #8575 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

That writer "needs" to learn how to "use" quotation marks properly.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 02, 2004 8:42:38 am PDT #8576 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I think it's a pretty well done piece overall. Certainly a more reality-based view of the spoiler phenomenon than the social capital-obsessed one that was posted here a few months back. I do think that repeated use of one particular poster's quotes damages the case for the writer drawing info from observation of fandom at large, though. Surely even within the particular Australian community in question, THE FIRST WEEVIL isn't responsible for 75% of all the pertinent posts on any given topic?


Kalshane - Jul 02, 2004 8:43:22 am PDT #8577 of 10001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

Gack! No kidding. All those quotation marks were 'distracting' and made me 'annoyed'.


Allyson - Jul 02, 2004 9:01:32 am PDT #8578 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Someone could be studying us RIGHT NOW. Someone say something crappy about Marti, something sickeningly sycophantic about Joss, something crazed about Spike, and misspell everything.

Also, if someone would engage in a drama infused hyperbolic non-sense making hysteria-bomb about feeling marginalized for not seeing the Willow Is On Drugs Anvil followed by Flouncing Off the Board, that would be helpful for the "study."